[theme-reviewers] Why can't theme authors have a second version of a theme?

Tina Ach t4324acharya at gmail.com
Sun Sep 28 13:46:51 UTC 2014

> David Chandra <david at shellcreeper.com> wrote:
> and don't worry if anyone else decide to submit the name "Responsive
> Mobile". I got several other name:
> "Responsive Z", "Responsive XYZ", or maybe "Responsive 101".
@david, Let team up together, call ourselves "InternetMonkeys", and start
releasing themes like Responze and Responsivity. Since clearly we are
"allowed" to do that, and we wont be breaking any rules.

I am sure Trent will again spark a 100 email long discussion, yelling that
our themes be removed from the repository... Lol!!

Tina :)

Tina Ach <t4324acharya at gmail.com> wrote:

> Coming down to the actual naming issue, there is a reason why this rule
> exists. Even if you are the only one allowed to use the name "Responsive
> WHATEVER", I can still come up with a bunch of names that will skirt around
> this rule.
> Responsivity
> Responsively
> Responze
> Responsivulous
> Responsorama
> Responsorati
> None of these names fringe your "assumed" trademark. Who decides where to
> draw a line here?
> Can of worms? Yes, indeed......
> --------------------------------------
> And just to be clear, NO-ONE, I repeat, NO-ONE is policing your "right to
> name your theme". Name it Responsive-2 , AS LONG AS ITS NOT HOSTED ON
> You have the right and the freedom to name it ANYTHING, but we as a
> community have the right to allow/disallow whats done on wordpress.org
> (+1 to Bryan for mentioning that). And yes, the admins here have been given
> the right to make decisions based on what THEY think is best for the
> community. They listen to the community and make (and often change) rules
> for what goes and what doesnt.
> Trent Lapinski <trent at cyberchimps.com> wrote:
> Apple, Samsung, Microsoft, and dozens of Fortune 500 companies use names
>> and numbers for products. Salesforce's latest development platform is
>> called Salesforce1.
> Yes, and you cal call it Responsive 2, as long as you host it on your own
> site like all these other companies do... DUH!!!
> Trent Lapinski <trent at cyberchimps.com> wrote:
> Actually they are absolutely are refusing to allow us to use the name
>> Responsive II. That's how this all got started. They stopped our review and
>> told us we can't use the name.
> NO THEY ARENT. They are just asking you that IF you want it hosted on
> wporg, then either remove earlier theme, or rename the new one. You can do
> whatever you want on your own site, just not on wordpress.org
>> Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me> wrote:
> Have you realized that you are the only one that does this?
> And if you read the entire discussion, you will realize that everyone who
> took part has sided with the admins. Only ones opposing them are you, Bryan
> and Brad - the 3 people with vested  interests. No neutral entity has sided
> with your side of the argument.
> You can yell the loudest that this is bureaucracy, politics, injustice or
> what not, but it seems you are the only one saying that, and the community
> doesnt believe you.
> So stop being a rebel and behaving like a victim
> Tina
> Bryan, kudos to you for conducting yourself in a dignified and
>> "respectful" manner.
>> I am afraid I cant say the same about Trent. Call it condescending or
>> disrespectful, your conduct has been shameful. And yes, you have behaved
>> like a whiny lil girl who wont stop screaming till she gets her ice cream.
>> We are all intelligent adults here, so lets not mince words. 'Responsive'
>> is a great keyword that a lot of people search for. You got this *generic*
>> theme name a long time ago (I dont think this name would have been allowed
>> had you released it today).
>> Now before you jump on your bandwagon, let me say this, and I hope you
>> pay attention: I personally think its great for you that you got this
>> generic keyword theme name. We all run businesses at the end of the day,
>> and OPEN SOURCE IS NOT ANTI-COMMERCIAL. We all have to pay bills, and I get
>> that. But please atleast have the dignity to acknowledge that the reason
>> for sticking to the 'responsive' name is A LOT MORE THAN SIMPLE BRANDING
>> It is more profitable for you to keep that name. Dead and simple (And
>> there is no shame in that btw. EARNING MONEY IS GOOD...)
>> and don't worry if anyone else decide to submit the name "Responsive
>>> Mobile". I got several other name:
>>> "Responsive Z", "Responsive XYZ", or maybe "Responsive 101".
>>> if Cyberchimp can use the name "Responsive X" or "Responsive..." then
>>> anyone should be able to do the same, right?
>>> because theme author/owner can transfer theme to other person/user.
>>> that means there should not be a special case to a company/user.
>>> because a week later(read: arbitrary time) the can decide to sell the
>>> theme and the name to someone else.
>>> (like in Responsive).
>>> note:
>>> I think this is the "can of worms" otto mention in email.
>>> -- David.
>>>  On Sep 28, 2014 1:10 PM, "David Chandra" <david at shellcreeper.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> then, I can take the name "Responsive Mobile", right(?)
>>>> thank you!
>>>> I'll build the theme today.
>>>> and I'll submit it  maybe tomorrow.
>>>> David.
>>>> On Sep 28, 2014 8:12 AM, "Bryan Hadaway" <bhadaway at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Okay, thank you everyone who participated in debating the issue.
>>>>> We'll come up with a new name "Responsive X" - "X" representing a word
>>>>> that doesn't conflict with the current naming scheme.
>>>>> We can consider the issue resolved and closed, at least for our
>>>>> specific ticket.
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