<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">David Chandra <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:david@shellcreeper.com" target="_blank">david@shellcreeper.com</a>></span> wrote:<p dir="ltr">and don't worry if anyone else decide to submit the name "Responsive Mobile". I got several other name:<br>"Responsive Z", "Responsive XYZ", or maybe "Responsive 101".</p></blockquote></div><div class="gmail_extra">@david, Let team up together, call ourselves "InternetMonkeys", and start releasing themes like Responze and Responsivity. Since clearly we are "allowed" to do that, and we wont be breaking any rules.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I am sure Trent will again spark a 100 email long discussion, yelling that our themes be removed from the repository... Lol!!</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Tina :)</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">Tina Ach <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:t4324acharya@gmail.com" target="_blank">t4324acharya@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Coming down to the actual naming issue, there is a reason why this rule exists. Even if you are the only one allowed to use the name "Responsive WHATEVER", I can still come up with a bunch of names that will skirt around this rule.</div><div><br></div><div>Responsivity</div><div>Responsively</div><div>Responze</div><div>Responsivulous</div><div>Responsorama</div><div>Responsorati</div><div><br></div><div>None of these names fringe your "assumed" trademark. Who decides where to draw a line here?</div><div><br></div><div>Can of worms? Yes, indeed......</div><div><br></div><div>--------------------------------------</div><div><br></div><div>And just to be clear, NO-ONE, I repeat, NO-ONE is policing your "right to name your theme". Name it Responsive-2 , AS LONG AS ITS NOT HOSTED ON <a href="http://WORDPRESS.ORG" target="_blank">WORDPRESS.ORG</a></div><div><br></div><div>You have the right and the freedom to name it ANYTHING, but we as a community have the right to allow/disallow whats done on <a href="http://wordpress.org" target="_blank">wordpress.org</a> (+1 to Bryan for mentioning that). And yes, the admins here have been given the right to make decisions based on what THEY think is best for the community. They listen to the community and make (and often change) rules for what goes and what doesnt.</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">Trent Lapinski <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:trent@cyberchimps.com" target="_blank">trent@cyberchimps.com</a>></span> wrote: </blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">Apple, Samsung, Microsoft, and dozens of Fortune 500 companies use names
and numbers for products. Salesforce's latest development platform is
called Salesforce1.</blockquote><div>Yes, and you cal call it Responsive 2, as long as you host it on your own site like all these other companies do... DUH!!!</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">Trent Lapinski <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:trent@cyberchimps.com" target="_blank">trent@cyberchimps.com</a>></span> wrote: </blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">Actually they are absolutely are refusing to allow us to use the name
Responsive II. That's how this all got started. They stopped our review
and told us we can't use the name.</blockquote><div>NO THEY ARENT. They are just asking you that IF you want it hosted on wporg, then either remove earlier theme, or rename the new one. You can do whatever you want on your own site, just not on <a href="http://wordpress.org" target="_blank">wordpress.org</a></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">Emil Uzelac <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:emil@uzelac.me" target="_blank">emil@uzelac.me</a>></span> wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Have you realized that you are the only one that does this?</span></blockquote><div> </div><div>And if you read the entire discussion, you will realize that everyone who took part has sided with the admins. Only ones opposing them are you, Bryan and Brad - the 3 people with vested interests. No neutral entity has sided with your side of the argument.</div><div><br></div><div>You can yell the loudest that this is bureaucracy, politics, injustice or what not, but it seems you are the only one saying that, and the community doesnt believe you.</div><div><br></div><div>So stop being a rebel and behaving like a victim</div><span class=""><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>Tina</div></font></span><div><div class="h5"><div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Bryan, kudos to you for conducting yourself in a dignified and "respectful" manner.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I am afraid I cant say the same about Trent. Call it condescending or disrespectful, your conduct has been shameful. And yes, you have behaved like a whiny lil girl who wont stop screaming till she gets her ice cream.</div><div><br></div><div>We are all intelligent adults here, so lets not mince words. 'Responsive' is a great keyword that a lot of people search for. You got this *generic* theme name a long time ago (I dont think this name would have been allowed had you released it today).</div><div><br></div><div>Now before you jump on your bandwagon, let me say this, and I hope you pay attention: I personally think its great for you that you got this generic keyword theme name. We all run businesses at the end of the day, and OPEN SOURCE IS NOT ANTI-COMMERCIAL. We all have to pay bills, and I get that. But please atleast have the dignity to acknowledge that the reason for sticking to the 'responsive' name is A LOT MORE THAN SIMPLE BRANDING ISSUE.</div><div>It is more profitable for you to keep that name. Dead and simple (And there is no shame in that btw. EARNING MONEY IS GOOD...)</div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">and don't worry if anyone else decide to submit the name "Responsive Mobile". I got several other name:<br>
"Responsive Z", "Responsive XYZ", or maybe "Responsive 101".</p>
<p dir="ltr">if Cyberchimp can use the name "Responsive X" or "Responsive..." then anyone should be able to do the same, right?<br>
because theme author/owner can transfer theme to other person/user.<br>
that means there should not be a special case to a company/user.<br>
because a week later(read: arbitrary time) the can decide to sell the theme and the name to someone else. <br>
(like in Responsive).</p>
<p dir="ltr">note:<br>
I think this is the "can of worms" otto mention in email.<span><font color="#888888"><br></font></span></p><span><font color="#888888">
<p dir="ltr">-- David.<br></p></font></span><div><div>
<p dir="ltr"> </p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 28, 2014 1:10 PM, "David Chandra" <<a href="mailto:david@shellcreeper.com" target="_blank">david@shellcreeper.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">then, I can take the name "Responsive Mobile", right(?)</p>
<p dir="ltr">thank you!<br>
I'll build the theme today.<br>
and I'll submit it maybe tomorrow.</p>
<p dir="ltr">David.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 28, 2014 8:12 AM, "Bryan Hadaway" <<a href="mailto:bhadaway@gmail.com" target="_blank">bhadaway@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Okay, thank you everyone who participated in debating the issue.<br><br></div>We'll come up with a new name "Responsive X" - "X" representing a word that doesn't conflict with the current naming scheme.<br><br></div>We can consider the issue resolved and closed, at least for our specific ticket.<br></div>
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