[theme-reviewers] theme-reviewers Digest, Vol 44, Issue 95

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On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 8:25 PM, bravo keyl <bravokeyl at gmail.com> wrote:

> My opinion:
> It's not good to fill our  pockets by contributing to the community.It's
> looses the value of "contribution" then.
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 8:20 PM, <
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>>    1. Re: Question: Someone Want to Take Benefit From a 'Top
>>       Reviewer of the Month'. (esmi at quirm dot net)
>>    2. Re: Theme Review Guidelines (Chip Bennett)
>>    3. Re: Question: Someone Want to Take Benefit From a 'Top
>>       Reviewer of the Month'. (Chip Bennett)
>>    4. Re: Theme Review Guidelines (Ulrich Pogson)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 14:33:58 +0000
>> From: esmi at quirm dot net <esmi at quirm.net>
>> To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
>> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Question: Someone Want to Take Benefit
>>         From a 'Top Reviewer of the Month'.
>> Message-ID: <52E91156.5020000 at quirm.net>
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>> on 29/01/2014 14:04 Kharis Sulistiyono said the following:
>> > I'm WordPress theme reviewer. Someone suddenly tried to make direct
>> > contact via email this evening. He wanted to take benefit from my
>> > theme reviewing works. Here is the main idea of the message:
>> >
>> > "You will just review the wp.org themes as you do now, and we will pay
>> > you for it. But you need to be a top reviewer of the month so you can
>> > choose our theme to be in the featured section. Is this interesting
>> > for you? Let us know. Thanks."
>>
>> > I want to know whether it is allowed or not.
>>
>> I'm not sure this has ever been brought up before but I'd say absolutely
>> not.
>>
>> Had anyone ever had similar experience?
>>
>> Not that I know of. I'm actually rather astounded that someone would try
>> this on.
>>
>> > If you were in my position, as professional theme reviewer what will
>> you do?
>>
>> Raise it here as you have done but otherwise not respond to it.
>>
>> > From my personal point of view, doing something like this is not good.
>> > It is a crucial issue dealing with maintaining featured themes
>> > quality. Because it is driven by money rather than objectiveness of
>> > theme reviewers.
>>
>> I couldn't agree more.
>>
>> > How WordPress respond this problem? Further more, I'm really curious
>> > of how WordPress maintain the featured themes stay badass and
>> > 'healthy'.
>>
>> By relying on ethical reviewers like yourself who are more interested in
>> contributing something of real value to the wider WordPress community as
>> opposed lining their own pockets.
>>
>> The elephant that is now in the room is of course... which theme did
>> your correspondents want featured? And should any action be taken
>> against that theme? I'd like to hear what other people have to say about
>> this before we get around to actually naming names.
>>
>> Mel
>> --
>> http://quirm.net
>> http://blackwidows.co.uk
>>
>>
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>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 09:41:43 -0500
>> From: Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net>
>> To: "Discussion list for WordPress theme reviewers."
>>         <theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org>
>> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Theme Review Guidelines
>> Message-ID:
>>         <CAPdLKqdHfC3N7jruWHk4sv5UKvDKQBjtZ0geeG9YRxoD=
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>> The handbook version of the Guidelines are not official. The official
>> Guidelines are the ones maintained by the Theme Review Team.
>>
>> As for things in the "Recommended" list being "Required" depending on the
>> situation: that's true. But to try to write explicit Guidelines that cover
>> all situations would result in really, really long and detailed
>> Guidelines.
>> As I often say: we want to avoid emulating the Code of Federal
>> Regulations.
>> :)
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:29 AM, Ulrich Pogson <grapplerulrich at gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > Are there any plans to improve and update the theme guidelines?
>> >
>> > It seems like someone from the docs team created a simplified version. I
>> > find this a lot easier to browse.
>> >
>> >
>> https://make.wordpress.org/docs/theme-developer-handbook/releasing-your-theme/theme-review-guidelines/
>> >
>> > The recommended page needs the most love as there are stuff there that
>> are
>> > required too depending on the situation.
>> > http://make.wordpress.org/themes/guidelines/guidelines-recommended/
>> >
>> >
>> > On 29 January 2014 14:02, Rohit Tripathi <rohitink at live.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Yes, that is True. Many Reviews, are based on mostly visual checks.
>> Code
>> >> is not checked at all.
>> >>
>> >> Looking forward to the February changes. Really hope that it resolves
>> the
>> >> problem, i talked about.
>> >>
>> >> :)
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------
>> >> Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 07:59:36 -0500
>> >> From: chip at chipbennett.net
>> >>
>> >> To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
>> >> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Theme Review Guidelines
>> >>
>> >> The latter point will be addressed in the February program changes.
>> >>
>> >> But as a general note: any Theme that has a generated ticket has
>> already
>> >> passed the critical/required tests in Theme Check (otherwise, the Theme
>> >> would fail the upload checks). From that point, Theme Check is only a
>> tool
>> >> for the reviewer, to help point out areas for further scrutiny. Dumping
>> >> Theme Check output in review ticket comments is almost always
>> redundant,
>> >> confusing, and unnecessary.
>> >>
>> >> Based on most of the "approved" tickets I've been auditing, I suspect
>> >> that several reviewers are reviewing Themes without ever looking at
>> any of
>> >> the Themes' code.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 7:40 AM, Rohit Tripathi <rohitink at live.com
>> >wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Yup. I always try to keep up with the Review Guidelines. Also, the
>> Theme
>> >> Emphasis Points are a Great Help. I would recommened that to everyone,
>> as
>> >> they will resolve most issues for tickets which are re-opened.
>> >>
>> >> But, I see many new reviewers are picking up themes in bulk and just
>> >> running Theme Checks, checking the license and approving theme. This
>> is a
>> >> bad practice, and seems to look like an attempt to misuse the Review
>> >> Incentive Feature.
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Rohit Tripathi
>> >> Administrator
>> >> InkHive.com
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------
>> >> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 20:30:21 -0600
>> >> From: emil at uzelac.me
>> >> To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
>> >> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Theme Review Guidelines
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> No problem thank you :)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 8:26 PM, Jose Castaneda <
>> jomcastaneda at gmail.com>wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Thanks Emil.
>> >> If anybody needs a second eye I try to make myself available when I
>> can.
>> >> I'm sure most others feel the same way.
>> >>
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>> Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 09:44:18 -0500
>> From: Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net>
>> To: "Discussion list for WordPress theme reviewers."
>>         <theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org>
>> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Question: Someone Want to Take Benefit
>>         From a 'Top Reviewer of the Month'.
>> Message-ID:
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>> For the sake of discussion: how is this any different from commercial
>> Theme
>> shops paying their employees to perform Theme reviews, with the expressed
>> intent of ensuring that one of the Theme shop's Themes gets listed as
>> featured?
>>
>> In other words: why is it acceptable for commercial Theme shops to engage
>> in this sort of financial transaction to gain a benefit from
>> WordPress.org,
>> but not for non-commercial developers?
>>
>> I don't have a preference, but I do think we should handle things
>> consistently.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Otto <otto at ottodestruct.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net>
>> > wrote:
>> > > IMHO, as long as the relationship is disclosed, there's nothing wrong
>> > with
>> > > it.
>> >
>> > Yeah. I'm not as forgiving as Chip.
>> >
>> > If you tell me who they are, then I will happily ban them from our
>> > systems, permanently.
>> >
>> > Or, if you want to be a bit more subtle about it, you can tell them
>> > that I said exactly the above and that they should damn well stop it.
>> >
>> > If there is any financial transaction of any kind to get any seeming
>> > benefits on WordPress.org, then I will *end* it. Understood? This is
>> > not a pay-to-win system.
>> >
>> > -Otto
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>> Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 15:50:02 +0100
>> From: Ulrich Pogson <grapplerulrich at gmail.com>
>> To: "Discussion list for WordPress theme reviewers."
>>         <theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org>
>> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Theme Review Guidelines
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>> @Chip I realise that it is not official, sorry I forgot to add that.
>>
>> So there are no plans to make it a bit easier to view?
>>
>> Who is on the Theme Review Team?
>>
>> I understand that the guidelines need to be general. Perhaps an example:
>> If
>> I remember correctly, themes are not allowed to redirect on activation.
>> This was discussed on the mailing list. I had a look for a mention in
>> the guidelines but could not find it. I may know about it but then someone
>> new is not going to know about this.
>>
>>
>> On 29 January 2014 15:41, Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net> wrote:
>>
>> > The handbook version of the Guidelines are not official. The official
>> > Guidelines are the ones maintained by the Theme Review Team.
>> >
>> > As for things in the "Recommended" list being "Required" depending on
>> the
>> > situation: that's true. But to try to write explicit Guidelines that
>> cover
>> > all situations would result in really, really long and detailed
>> Guidelines.
>> > As I often say: we want to avoid emulating the Code of Federal
>> Regulations.
>> > :)
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:29 AM, Ulrich Pogson <
>> grapplerulrich at gmail.com>wrote:
>> >
>> >> Are there any plans to improve and update the theme guidelines?
>> >>
>> >> It seems like someone from the docs team created a simplified version.
>> I
>> >> find this a lot easier to browse.
>> >>
>> >>
>> https://make.wordpress.org/docs/theme-developer-handbook/releasing-your-theme/theme-review-guidelines/
>> >>
>> >> The recommended page needs the most love as there are stuff there that
>> >> are required too depending on the situation.
>> >> http://make.wordpress.org/themes/guidelines/guidelines-recommended/
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 29 January 2014 14:02, Rohit Tripathi <rohitink at live.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Yes, that is True. Many Reviews, are based on mostly visual checks.
>> Code
>> >>> is not checked at all.
>> >>>
>> >>> Looking forward to the February changes. Really hope that it resolves
>> >>> the problem, i talked about.
>> >>>
>> >>> :)
>> >>>
>> >>> ------------------------------
>> >>> Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 07:59:36 -0500
>> >>> From: chip at chipbennett.net
>> >>>
>> >>> To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
>> >>> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Theme Review Guidelines
>> >>>
>> >>> The latter point will be addressed in the February program changes.
>> >>>
>> >>> But as a general note: any Theme that has a generated ticket has
>> already
>> >>> passed the critical/required tests in Theme Check (otherwise, the
>> Theme
>> >>> would fail the upload checks). From that point, Theme Check is only a
>> tool
>> >>> for the reviewer, to help point out areas for further scrutiny.
>> Dumping
>> >>> Theme Check output in review ticket comments is almost always
>> redundant,
>> >>> confusing, and unnecessary.
>> >>>
>> >>> Based on most of the "approved" tickets I've been auditing, I suspect
>> >>> that several reviewers are reviewing Themes without ever looking at
>> any of
>> >>> the Themes' code.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 7:40 AM, Rohit Tripathi <rohitink at live.com
>> >wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Yup. I always try to keep up with the Review Guidelines. Also, the
>> Theme
>> >>> Emphasis Points are a Great Help. I would recommened that to
>> everyone, as
>> >>> they will resolve most issues for tickets which are re-opened.
>> >>>
>> >>> But, I see many new reviewers are picking up themes in bulk and just
>> >>> running Theme Checks, checking the license and approving theme. This
>> is a
>> >>> bad practice, and seems to look like an attempt to misuse the Review
>> >>> Incentive Feature.
>> >>>
>> >>> Regards,
>> >>> Rohit Tripathi
>> >>> Administrator
>> >>> InkHive.com
>> >>>
>> >>> ------------------------------
>> >>> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 20:30:21 -0600
>> >>> From: emil at uzelac.me
>> >>> To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
>> >>> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Theme Review Guidelines
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> No problem thank you :)
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 8:26 PM, Jose Castaneda <
>> jomcastaneda at gmail.com>wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks Emil.
>> >>> If anybody needs a second eye I try to make myself available when I
>> can.
>> >>> I'm sure most others feel the same way.
>> >>>
>> >>> _______________________________________________
>> >>> theme-reviewers mailing list
>> >>> theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
>> >>> http://lists.wordpress.org/mailman/listinfo/theme-reviewers
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
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>> mailing
>> >>> list theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
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