[theme-reviewers] theme-reviewers Digest, Vol 44, Issue 95
bravo keyl
bravokeyl at gmail.com
Wed Jan 29 14:55:16 UTC 2014
My opinion:
It's not good to fill our pockets by contributing to the community.It's
looses the value of "contribution" then.
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 8:20 PM, <
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> 1. Re: Question: Someone Want to Take Benefit From a 'Top
> Reviewer of the Month'. (esmi at quirm dot net)
> 2. Re: Theme Review Guidelines (Chip Bennett)
> 3. Re: Question: Someone Want to Take Benefit From a 'Top
> Reviewer of the Month'. (Chip Bennett)
> 4. Re: Theme Review Guidelines (Ulrich Pogson)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 14:33:58 +0000
> From: esmi at quirm dot net <esmi at quirm.net>
> To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Question: Someone Want to Take Benefit
> From a 'Top Reviewer of the Month'.
> Message-ID: <52E91156.5020000 at quirm.net>
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> on 29/01/2014 14:04 Kharis Sulistiyono said the following:
> > I'm WordPress theme reviewer. Someone suddenly tried to make direct
> > contact via email this evening. He wanted to take benefit from my
> > theme reviewing works. Here is the main idea of the message:
> >
> > "You will just review the wp.org themes as you do now, and we will pay
> > you for it. But you need to be a top reviewer of the month so you can
> > choose our theme to be in the featured section. Is this interesting
> > for you? Let us know. Thanks."
>
> > I want to know whether it is allowed or not.
>
> I'm not sure this has ever been brought up before but I'd say absolutely
> not.
>
> Had anyone ever had similar experience?
>
> Not that I know of. I'm actually rather astounded that someone would try
> this on.
>
> > If you were in my position, as professional theme reviewer what will you
> do?
>
> Raise it here as you have done but otherwise not respond to it.
>
> > From my personal point of view, doing something like this is not good.
> > It is a crucial issue dealing with maintaining featured themes
> > quality. Because it is driven by money rather than objectiveness of
> > theme reviewers.
>
> I couldn't agree more.
>
> > How WordPress respond this problem? Further more, I'm really curious
> > of how WordPress maintain the featured themes stay badass and
> > 'healthy'.
>
> By relying on ethical reviewers like yourself who are more interested in
> contributing something of real value to the wider WordPress community as
> opposed lining their own pockets.
>
> The elephant that is now in the room is of course... which theme did
> your correspondents want featured? And should any action be taken
> against that theme? I'd like to hear what other people have to say about
> this before we get around to actually naming names.
>
> Mel
> --
> http://quirm.net
> http://blackwidows.co.uk
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 09:41:43 -0500
> From: Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net>
> To: "Discussion list for WordPress theme reviewers."
> <theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org>
> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Theme Review Guidelines
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> The handbook version of the Guidelines are not official. The official
> Guidelines are the ones maintained by the Theme Review Team.
>
> As for things in the "Recommended" list being "Required" depending on the
> situation: that's true. But to try to write explicit Guidelines that cover
> all situations would result in really, really long and detailed Guidelines.
> As I often say: we want to avoid emulating the Code of Federal Regulations.
> :)
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:29 AM, Ulrich Pogson <grapplerulrich at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Are there any plans to improve and update the theme guidelines?
> >
> > It seems like someone from the docs team created a simplified version. I
> > find this a lot easier to browse.
> >
> >
> https://make.wordpress.org/docs/theme-developer-handbook/releasing-your-theme/theme-review-guidelines/
> >
> > The recommended page needs the most love as there are stuff there that
> are
> > required too depending on the situation.
> > http://make.wordpress.org/themes/guidelines/guidelines-recommended/
> >
> >
> > On 29 January 2014 14:02, Rohit Tripathi <rohitink at live.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Yes, that is True. Many Reviews, are based on mostly visual checks. Code
> >> is not checked at all.
> >>
> >> Looking forward to the February changes. Really hope that it resolves
> the
> >> problem, i talked about.
> >>
> >> :)
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >> Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 07:59:36 -0500
> >> From: chip at chipbennett.net
> >>
> >> To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
> >> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Theme Review Guidelines
> >>
> >> The latter point will be addressed in the February program changes.
> >>
> >> But as a general note: any Theme that has a generated ticket has already
> >> passed the critical/required tests in Theme Check (otherwise, the Theme
> >> would fail the upload checks). From that point, Theme Check is only a
> tool
> >> for the reviewer, to help point out areas for further scrutiny. Dumping
> >> Theme Check output in review ticket comments is almost always redundant,
> >> confusing, and unnecessary.
> >>
> >> Based on most of the "approved" tickets I've been auditing, I suspect
> >> that several reviewers are reviewing Themes without ever looking at any
> of
> >> the Themes' code.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 7:40 AM, Rohit Tripathi <rohitink at live.com
> >wrote:
> >>
> >> Yup. I always try to keep up with the Review Guidelines. Also, the Theme
> >> Emphasis Points are a Great Help. I would recommened that to everyone,
> as
> >> they will resolve most issues for tickets which are re-opened.
> >>
> >> But, I see many new reviewers are picking up themes in bulk and just
> >> running Theme Checks, checking the license and approving theme. This is
> a
> >> bad practice, and seems to look like an attempt to misuse the Review
> >> Incentive Feature.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Rohit Tripathi
> >> Administrator
> >> InkHive.com
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 20:30:21 -0600
> >> From: emil at uzelac.me
> >> To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
> >> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Theme Review Guidelines
> >>
> >>
> >> No problem thank you :)
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 8:26 PM, Jose Castaneda <jomcastaneda at gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks Emil.
> >> If anybody needs a second eye I try to make myself available when I can.
> >> I'm sure most others feel the same way.
> >>
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> Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 09:44:18 -0500
> From: Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net>
> To: "Discussion list for WordPress theme reviewers."
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> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Question: Someone Want to Take Benefit
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> For the sake of discussion: how is this any different from commercial Theme
> shops paying their employees to perform Theme reviews, with the expressed
> intent of ensuring that one of the Theme shop's Themes gets listed as
> featured?
>
> In other words: why is it acceptable for commercial Theme shops to engage
> in this sort of financial transaction to gain a benefit from WordPress.org,
> but not for non-commercial developers?
>
> I don't have a preference, but I do think we should handle things
> consistently.
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Otto <otto at ottodestruct.com> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net>
> > wrote:
> > > IMHO, as long as the relationship is disclosed, there's nothing wrong
> > with
> > > it.
> >
> > Yeah. I'm not as forgiving as Chip.
> >
> > If you tell me who they are, then I will happily ban them from our
> > systems, permanently.
> >
> > Or, if you want to be a bit more subtle about it, you can tell them
> > that I said exactly the above and that they should damn well stop it.
> >
> > If there is any financial transaction of any kind to get any seeming
> > benefits on WordPress.org, then I will *end* it. Understood? This is
> > not a pay-to-win system.
> >
> > -Otto
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> Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 15:50:02 +0100
> From: Ulrich Pogson <grapplerulrich at gmail.com>
> To: "Discussion list for WordPress theme reviewers."
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> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Theme Review Guidelines
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> @Chip I realise that it is not official, sorry I forgot to add that.
>
> So there are no plans to make it a bit easier to view?
>
> Who is on the Theme Review Team?
>
> I understand that the guidelines need to be general. Perhaps an example: If
> I remember correctly, themes are not allowed to redirect on activation.
> This was discussed on the mailing list. I had a look for a mention in
> the guidelines but could not find it. I may know about it but then someone
> new is not going to know about this.
>
>
> On 29 January 2014 15:41, Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net> wrote:
>
> > The handbook version of the Guidelines are not official. The official
> > Guidelines are the ones maintained by the Theme Review Team.
> >
> > As for things in the "Recommended" list being "Required" depending on the
> > situation: that's true. But to try to write explicit Guidelines that
> cover
> > all situations would result in really, really long and detailed
> Guidelines.
> > As I often say: we want to avoid emulating the Code of Federal
> Regulations.
> > :)
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:29 AM, Ulrich Pogson <grapplerulrich at gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Are there any plans to improve and update the theme guidelines?
> >>
> >> It seems like someone from the docs team created a simplified version. I
> >> find this a lot easier to browse.
> >>
> >>
> https://make.wordpress.org/docs/theme-developer-handbook/releasing-your-theme/theme-review-guidelines/
> >>
> >> The recommended page needs the most love as there are stuff there that
> >> are required too depending on the situation.
> >> http://make.wordpress.org/themes/guidelines/guidelines-recommended/
> >>
> >>
> >> On 29 January 2014 14:02, Rohit Tripathi <rohitink at live.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Yes, that is True. Many Reviews, are based on mostly visual checks.
> Code
> >>> is not checked at all.
> >>>
> >>> Looking forward to the February changes. Really hope that it resolves
> >>> the problem, i talked about.
> >>>
> >>> :)
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>> Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 07:59:36 -0500
> >>> From: chip at chipbennett.net
> >>>
> >>> To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
> >>> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Theme Review Guidelines
> >>>
> >>> The latter point will be addressed in the February program changes.
> >>>
> >>> But as a general note: any Theme that has a generated ticket has
> already
> >>> passed the critical/required tests in Theme Check (otherwise, the Theme
> >>> would fail the upload checks). From that point, Theme Check is only a
> tool
> >>> for the reviewer, to help point out areas for further scrutiny. Dumping
> >>> Theme Check output in review ticket comments is almost always
> redundant,
> >>> confusing, and unnecessary.
> >>>
> >>> Based on most of the "approved" tickets I've been auditing, I suspect
> >>> that several reviewers are reviewing Themes without ever looking at
> any of
> >>> the Themes' code.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 7:40 AM, Rohit Tripathi <rohitink at live.com
> >wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Yup. I always try to keep up with the Review Guidelines. Also, the
> Theme
> >>> Emphasis Points are a Great Help. I would recommened that to everyone,
> as
> >>> they will resolve most issues for tickets which are re-opened.
> >>>
> >>> But, I see many new reviewers are picking up themes in bulk and just
> >>> running Theme Checks, checking the license and approving theme. This
> is a
> >>> bad practice, and seems to look like an attempt to misuse the Review
> >>> Incentive Feature.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Rohit Tripathi
> >>> Administrator
> >>> InkHive.com
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 20:30:21 -0600
> >>> From: emil at uzelac.me
> >>> To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
> >>> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Theme Review Guidelines
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> No problem thank you :)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 8:26 PM, Jose Castaneda <
> jomcastaneda at gmail.com>wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Thanks Emil.
> >>> If anybody needs a second eye I try to make myself available when I
> can.
> >>> I'm sure most others feel the same way.
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> theme-reviewers mailing list
> >>> theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
> >>> http://lists.wordpress.org/mailman/listinfo/theme-reviewers
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________ theme-reviewers mailing
> >>> list theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
> >>> http://lists.wordpress.org/mailman/listinfo/theme-reviewers
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
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> >>>
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> >>>
> >>
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