[theme-reviewers] GPL and limiting usage

[Ünsal Korkmaz]

>
> > Ok, i can lie to my users about "you can only use on 1 website" as
> pagelines
> > doing
> That isn't what Pagelines is doing, and the "pricing" page you keep
> pointing to does not actually say anything remotely close to that.
> You're reading words that are not actually there.


You see same page with me right?

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On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 10:56 PM, Towfiq I. <tislam100 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Previously I told my premium theme users that they can use on theme for
> only one domain. In those days, same users bought multiple themes for
> multiple domains because of this restriction. I sold more themes than i do
> now. But when I learned that, you cannot do that with GPL license. I
> changed that,  told users they can use the theme on multiple domains. Since
> its allowed to let users know that they can use one theme per domain, like
> pagelines.. am I allowed to do that in my website's pricing page too? and
> then in my terms of service page(that no one ever reads), I will tell users
> that they can use one theme on unlimited domains.
> Isn't it misleading?
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> On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 1:48 AM, Ünsal Korkmaz <unsalkorkmaz at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Ok, i can lie to my users about "you can only use on 1 website" as
>> pagelines doing while i will say theme is gpl in legal notices, so my naive
>> users will buy extra licenses which normally they shouldnt need. I will
>> keep this post's link if someone say something in future tho. And it seems
>> lying to your customer have a new name.. *marketing.*
>>
>> This is what i understand from this conversation. Thanks everyone for
>> sparing time.
>>
>> (P.S: pageline's personal and business plan's only diffence is how many
>> website you can use it.)
>>  *
>> *
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 10:39 PM, Otto <otto at ottodestruct.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Ünsal Korkmaz <unsalkorkmaz at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >> Show me where their *behavior* is in violation. Show me where their
>>> >> *actual terms* are in violation. Don't nitpick the marketing.
>>> >
>>> > http://www.pagelines.com/pricing/
>>> > Uses License Key system which restricts usage on how many site you
>>> install
>>> > and when you stop paying:
>>>
>>> And yet again, you point to the marketing pages... Those are not
>>> "terms", these are the terms:
>>> http://www.pagelines.com/terms-of-service/
>>>
>>> For the specific case of the Pagelines DMS theme, it was actually
>>> not-approved with their first attempt:
>>> https://themes.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/14116
>>>
>>> They are making a second attempt now with a newly uploaded version:
>>> https://themes.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/14369
>>>
>>> And if you have specific issues with specific themes, those should be
>>> discussed *in ticket*. Here you have a company actively working on
>>> this theme that you're talking about, and you're complaining about
>>> them being listed totally elsewhere for "violations" of a rather
>>> nebulous nature. Why not tell them of your concerns, directly, by
>>> reviewing their theme and expressing your concerns? Attempt to fix
>>> things and make them better, sort of thing.
>>>
>>>
>>> > you lose access to your professional-only editing tools and effects,
>>> the
>>> > ability to add and edit Professional sections
>>> >
>>> >  Basically i cant get theme and modify & use however i want and
>>> basically i
>>> > cant use it on multisite.Isnt it enough?
>>>
>>> If this is indeed part of the theme, sure. My suggestion to them for
>>> the DMS theme was to remove that code from the theme and sell those
>>> editing tools separately, as an add-on.
>>>
>>> As for multisite, that theme that you're pointing to works fine on
>>> multisite. Again, their licensing is tied to support and add-ons that
>>> they sell for their themes. Read the actual terms, not the marketing.
>>>
>>> -Otto
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