[theme-reviewers] Tags and description.

Fri Aug 23 16:40:38 UTC 2013

But, what's an "e-commerce" Theme? What's a "real estate" Theme? What's a
"finance" Theme? What's a [insert industry here] Theme?

On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Justin Tadlock
<justin at justintadlock.com>wrote:

>  I actually like those top-level categories from ThemeForest.  Users are
> probably more likely to look for an "e-commerce" theme rather than a "blue"
> theme.  Or, better yet, they could search for a "blue" +  "e-commerce"
> theme, which just instantly makes searching themes more useful.
>
> Also, I think we should propose dropping the "threaded-comments" tag.  All
> themes are required to support this now, so this offers no real benefit.
>
>
> On 8/22/2013 11:34 PM, Josh Pollock wrote:
>
> @justin agreed.
>
>  We ned to think about more than just mobile/responsive/etc tags.
>
>  What about tags based one end purpose, how do we feel about reviewing
> those? For instance theme forest has these top level categories for their
> WordPress themes: Blog/ magazine, creative, corporate, retail, technology,
> nonprofit, entertainment, miscellaneous, mobile, buddypress, and ecommerce.
> Could we do tags like that? What about a CMS tag?
>
>  @emil - There is no guarantee that there will be new tags. This process
> is very preliminary. But if a useful set of tags can be generated by the
> THX38 project, then a new search filtering system based on those tags will
> have a good shot at being implemented.
> I'm trying to take some initiative to bring the theme review team's
> thoughts on tags back to the THX38 team because I'm the only theme reviewer
> that was present for the first THX38 meeting and a lot of ideas for new
> tags were thrown around, which made me worry about how we were going to
> review them. Basically, I'd rather say, "this is what the theme review team
> discussion resulted in", then say, "as one of the theme reviewers this is
> what I think."
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 12:16 AM, Justin Tadlock <justin at justintadlock.com
> > wrote:
>
>>  I agree with Chip that one tag would be better for end users.  However,
>> I also think we need to propose multiple tags to whoever is in charge of
>> this.  So, having a list of potential tags with their definitions is what
>> we should put together.
>>
>> On that note, I've never had a user ask for an "adaptive" theme.  It's
>> mostly "responsive."  But, "mobile-ready" and "mobile-first" are terms that
>> are also thrown around a bit.
>>
>> Also, I dislike the phrase "fluid grid system" when referring to
>> responsive design.  Maybe something along the lines of "a fluid layout that
>> responds to screen size."  Anyway, I'm just nit-picking words here.
>>
>>
>> On 8/22/2013 10:52 PM, Josh Pollock wrote:
>>
>>  @chip- I think there is a good chance of a lot of new tags being added.
>> Everyone agrees we need to be able to filter search results based on tags
>> and the current set of tags doesn't do it.
>>
>>  What does it hurt to create a list of tag and definitions that the
>> theme review team thinks would be useful and we could review fairly?
>>
>>  I think it would be better if we brainstormed a list without any
>> premptive doomsaying, so I can take it back to the THX38 meeting as the
>> theme review teams ideas on new tags, instead of just bringing own ideas.
>>
>> On Thursday, August 22, 2013, Chip Bennett wrote:
>>
>>> My main problem with that is that it's still adding three tags where
>>> currently none exist. I just don't see that flying with the powers-that-be.
>>> I think our best bet of getting *any* tags added is to keep to a single
>>> tag.
>>>
>>>  IMHO, the tag list could probably stand for a bit of an overhaul - but
>>> that would be a bigger discussion than this one.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 8:27 PM, Josh Pollock <jpollock412 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>> How about this:
>>>
>>>  Responsive: "A theme with a layout that employs a fluid grid system
>>> that changes in response to screen size."
>>> Mobile-Optimized: "A theme that adjusts its layout, reduces the sizes of
>>> its media elements and otherwise improves the page load time and user
>>> experience for mobile."
>>> Mobile: "A Theme that is designed to be used only on mobile devices."
>>>
>>>  Notice I left adaptive off of the list, and I'm open to leaving mobile
>>> off too if its not needed.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 7:27 PM, Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me> wrote:
>>>
>>> mobile-responsive and that includes both?
>>>  On Aug 22, 2013 5:46 PM, "Emil Uzelac" <emil at uzelac.me> wrote:
>>>
>>> Whatever is better. :-)
>>> On Aug 22, 2013 5:44 PM, "Chip Bennett" <chip at chipbennett.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Remember: those tags are, primarily, for *users* rather than for
>>> developers. To the end user: what's the tangible difference between
>>> "responsive" and "adaptive"? In this case, "end user" could be both the
>>> site owner (the one who chooses and installs the Theme) or the site visitor
>>> (who would view the website via devices with various screen sizes).
>>>
>>>  Do a developer, I agree 100% that the two terms have tangible,
>>> meaningful differences.
>>>
>>>  I'm just struggling to see how a user would see any difference
>>> whatsoever. In both cases, the Theme is designed to work on devices with
>>> variously small screen sizes.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Josh Pollock <jpollock412 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>> I agree and disagree with Chip. I agree we need to find the definition
>>> that is most useful to end users and two tags with the same definition is
>>> probably confusing. The problem is some end users are more sophisticated
>>> than others. Some know what responsive means, some don't. That said, we
>>> shouldn't equate the two, because they are different. GIve me a little time
>>> and I will propose some new definitions.
>>>
>>>  @Ulrich We can't just add tags to the guidelines. They need to be
>>> supported by core. As part of the THX38 project this will most likely
>>> happening. I'm hoping to go to the next THX38 meeting with a list of tags
>>> that we, as theme reviewers, want added and feel like we can review
>>> properly.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net>wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm one of those people who doesn't know the difference between
>>> "responsive" and "adaptive". Well, until just now, because I googled it<http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/web-designer/what-is-the-difference-between-responsive-vs-adaptive-web-design/>.
>>>
>>>
>>>  The TL;DR of that article:
>>>
>>>
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