<div dir="ltr">But, what's an "e-commerce" Theme? What's a "real estate" Theme? What's a "finance" Theme? What's a [insert industry here] Theme?</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Justin Tadlock <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:justin@justintadlock.com" target="_blank">justin@justintadlock.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

  
    
  
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    I actually like those top-level categories from ThemeForest.  Users
    are probably more likely to look for an "e-commerce" theme rather
    than a "blue" theme.  Or, better yet, they could search for a "blue"
    +  "e-commerce" theme, which just instantly makes searching themes
    more useful.<br>
    <br>
    Also, I think we should propose dropping the "threaded-comments"
    tag.  All themes are required to support this now, so this offers no
    real benefit.<div><div class="h5"><br>
    <br>
    <div>On 8/22/2013 11:34 PM, Josh Pollock
      wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">@justin agreed.
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        <div>We ned to think about more than just mobile/responsive/etc
          tags.</div>
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        <div>What about tags based one end purpose, how do we feel about
          reviewing those? For instance theme forest has these top level
          categories for their WordPress themes: Blog/ magazine,
          creative, corporate, retail, technology, nonprofit,
          entertainment, miscellaneous, mobile, buddypress, and
          ecommerce. Could we do tags like that? What about a CMS tag?</div>
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        <div>@emil - There is no guarantee that there will be new tags.
          This process is very preliminary. But if a useful set of tags
          can be generated by the THX38 project, then a new search
          filtering system based on those tags will have a good shot at
          being implemented.</div>
        <div>I'm trying to take some initiative to bring the theme
          review team's thoughts on tags back to the THX38 team because
          I'm the only theme reviewer that was present for the first
          THX38 meeting and a lot of ideas for new tags were thrown
          around, which made me worry about how we were going to review
          them. Basically, I'd rather say, "this is what the theme
          review team discussion resulted in", then say, "as one of the
          theme reviewers this is what I think."</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 12:16 AM,
          Justin Tadlock <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:justin@justintadlock.com" target="_blank">justin@justintadlock.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> I agree with Chip
              that one tag would be better for end users.  However, I
              also think we need to propose multiple tags to whoever is
              in charge of this.  So, having a list of potential tags
              with their definitions is what we should put together.<br>
              <br>
              On that note, I've never had a user ask for an "adaptive"
              theme.  It's mostly "responsive."  But, "mobile-ready" and
              "mobile-first" are terms that are also thrown around a
              bit.<br>
              <br>
              Also, I dislike the phrase "fluid grid system" when
              referring to responsive design.  Maybe something along the
              lines of "a fluid layout that responds to screen size." 
              Anyway, I'm just nit-picking words here.
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                  <div>On 8/22/2013 10:52 PM, Josh Pollock wrote:<br>
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                  <div>@chip- I think there is a good chance
                    of a lot of new tags being added. Everyone agrees we
                    need to be able to filter search results based on
                    tags and the current set of tags doesn't do it.
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>What does it hurt to create a list of tag and
                      definitions that the theme review team thinks
                      would be useful and we could review fairly?
                      <div> <br>
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                      <div>I think it would be better if we brainstormed
                        a list without any premptive doomsaying, so I
                        can take it back to the THX38 meeting as the
                        theme review teams ideas on new tags, instead of
                        just <span></span>bringing own ideas.<br>
                        <br>
                        On Thursday, August 22, 2013, Chip Bennett
                        wrote:<br>
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                          <div dir="ltr">My main problem with that is
                            that it's still adding three tags where
                            currently none exist. I just don't see that
                            flying with the powers-that-be. I think our
                            best bet of getting *any* tags added is to
                            keep to a single tag.
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                            <div>IMHO, the tag list could probably stand
                              for a bit of an overhaul - but that would
                              be a bigger discussion than this one.</div>
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                            <div>On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 8:27 PM, Josh
                              Pollock <span dir="ltr"><<a>jpollock412@gmail.com</a>></span>
                              wrote:<br>
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                                <div dir="ltr">How about this:
                                  <div><br>
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                                  <div>Responsive: "<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">A
                                      theme with a layout that employs a
                                      fluid grid system that changes in
                                      response to screen size."</span></div>
                                  <div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Mobile-Optimized:

                                      "A theme that adjusts its layout,
                                      reduces the sizes of its media
                                      elements and otherwise improves
                                      the page load time and user
                                      experience for mobile."</span></div>
                                  <div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Mobile:

                                      "A Theme that is designed to be
                                      used only on mobile devices."</span></div>
                                  <div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br>
                                    </span></div>
                                  <div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Notice

                                      I left adaptive off of the list,
                                      and I'm open to leaving mobile off
                                      too if its not needed.</span></div>
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                                      <div>On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 7:27
                                        PM, Emil Uzelac <span dir="ltr"><<a>emil@uzelac.me</a>></span>
                                        wrote:<br>
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                                          <p dir="ltr">mobile-responsive
                                            and that includes both?</p>
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                                            <div>
                                              <div>On Aug 22, 2013 5:46
                                                PM, "Emil Uzelac" <<a>emil@uzelac.me</a>>

                                                wrote:<br type="attribution">
                                                <blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                  <p dir="ltr">Whatever
                                                    is better. :-)</p>
                                                  <div>On Aug 22, 2013
                                                    5:44 PM, "Chip
                                                    Bennett" <<a>chip@chipbennett.net</a>>

                                                    wrote:<br type="attribution">
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                                                      <div dir="ltr">Remember:
                                                        those tags are,
                                                        primarily, for
                                                        *users* rather
                                                        than for
                                                        developers. To
                                                        the end user:
                                                        what's the
                                                        tangible
                                                        difference
                                                        between
                                                        "responsive" and
                                                        "adaptive"? In
                                                        this case, "end
                                                        user" could be
                                                        both the site
                                                        owner (the one
                                                        who chooses and
                                                        installs the
                                                        Theme) or the
                                                        site visitor
                                                        (who would view
                                                        the website via
                                                        devices with
                                                        various screen
                                                        sizes).
                                                        <div> <br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>Do a
                                                          developer, I
                                                          agree 100%
                                                          that the two
                                                          terms have
                                                          tangible,
                                                          meaningful
                                                          differences.</div>
                                                        <div><br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>I'm just
                                                          struggling to
                                                          see how a user
                                                          would see any
                                                          difference
                                                          whatsoever. In
                                                          both cases,
                                                          the Theme is
                                                          designed to
                                                          work on
                                                          devices with
                                                          variously
                                                          small screen
                                                          sizes.</div>
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                                                      <div><br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        <div>On Thu, Aug
                                                          22, 2013 at
                                                          3:34 PM, Josh
                                                          Pollock <span dir="ltr"><<a>jpollock412@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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                                                          <div dir="ltr">I
                                                          agree and
                                                          disagree with
                                                          Chip. I agree
                                                          we need to
                                                          find the
                                                          definition
                                                          that is most
                                                          useful to end
                                                          users and two
                                                          tags with the
                                                          same
                                                          definition is
                                                          probably
                                                          confusing. The
                                                          problem is
                                                          some end users
                                                          are more
                                                          sophisticated
                                                          than others.
                                                          Some know what
                                                          responsive
                                                          means, some
                                                          don't. That
                                                          said, we
                                                          shouldn't
                                                          equate the
                                                          two, because
                                                          they are
                                                          different.
                                                          GIve me a
                                                          little time
                                                          and I will
                                                          propose some
                                                          new
                                                          definitions.
                                                          <div> <br>
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                                                          <div>@Ulrich
                                                          We can't just
                                                          add tags to
                                                          the
                                                          guidelines.
                                                          They need to
                                                          be supported
                                                          by core. As
                                                          part of the
                                                          THX38 project
                                                          this will most
                                                          likely
                                                          happening. I'm
                                                          hoping to go
                                                          to the next
                                                          THX38 meeting
                                                          with a list of
                                                          tags that we,
                                                          as theme
                                                          reviewers,
                                                          want added and
                                                          feel like we
                                                          can review
                                                          properly.</div>
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                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div>On Thu,
                                                          Aug 22, 2013
                                                          at 3:17 PM,
                                                          Chip Bennett <span dir="ltr"><<a>chip@chipbennett.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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                                                          <div dir="ltr">I'm

                                                          one of those
                                                          people who
                                                          doesn't know
                                                          the difference
                                                          between
                                                          "responsive"
                                                          and
                                                          "adaptive".
                                                          Well, <a href="http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/web-designer/what-is-the-difference-between-responsive-vs-adaptive-web-design/" target="_blank">until just now, because I googled it</a>.
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                                                          <div>The TL;DR
                                                          of that
                                                          article:</div>
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