[theme-reviewers] theme-reviewers Digest, Vol 18, Issue 30

Wed Nov 16 05:31:17 UTC 2011

Why limit developers from using best practices for performance, like
Google's CDN for jQuery and fonts with local fallbacks?

On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 4:51 PM, <
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>   1. Re: external style sheets (Ryan Frankel)
>   2. Re: external style sheets (Otto)
>   3. Re: external style sheets (Simon Prosser)
>   4. Re: external style sheets (Daniel Fenn)
>   5. Re: external style sheets (Emil Uzelac)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 19:43:55 -0500
> From: Ryan Frankel <ryan.frankel at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] external style sheets
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> There is also the consideration of the advantages a CDN hosted font brings.
>
> Ryan
>
> On Nov 15, 2011, at 7:41 PM, Daniel Fenn wrote:
>
> > Just a quick question, what the max file size that can be uploaded?
> > Just hat someone may include 2 or more fonts and make the zip file too
> > big to upload.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Otto <otto at ottodestruct.com> wrote:
> >> On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Edward Caissie
> >> <edward.caissie at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Given Otto's two comments I am seriously thinking we should be,
> starting with 3.3, RECOMMENDING all Theme assets (CSS, images, code, etc.)
> be included with the Theme package/archive; then moving to REQUIRED with
> 3.4 ... although the only real go-forward issue I see at the moment is the
> inclusion of Google-fonts (low-risk but still contravening this idea) this
> can be addressed as well (per Otto).
> >>
> >> Note that all of Google's Web Fonts are available for download and can
> >> be easily included in a theme without too much trouble. Only potential
> >> issue is size, which I'm still thinking about.
> >>
> >> Most of G's fonts are using the SIL Open Font License, which is GPLv2
> >> compatible. Some of the rest are using the Apache 2 License which is
> >> not GPLv2 compatible.
> >>
> >> If a theme includes a font (or anything else reasonably separate),
> >> make sure that:
> >> a) the license for that font is documented in the theme's readme or in
> >> the stylesheet (all relevant licenses should always be listed
> >> somewhere)
> >> b) that the license is a compatible one (listed here:
> >> http://codex.wordpress.org/Theme_Review#GPL-Compatible_Font_Licenses)
> >>
> >> -Otto
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:47:54 -0600
> From: Otto <otto at ottodestruct.com>
> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] external style sheets
> To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
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> On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Daniel Fenn <danielx386 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Just a quick question, what the max file size that can be uploaded?
> > Just hat someone may include 2 or more fonts and make the zip file too
> > big to upload.
>
> 8 meg.
>
> -Otto
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 00:49:26 +0000
> From: Simon Prosser <pross at pross.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] external style sheets
> To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
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> I seem to remember someone trying to upload a 10M theme a while ago lol
>
> On 16 November 2011 00:41, Daniel Fenn <danielx386 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Just a quick question, what the max file size that can be uploaded?
> > Just hat someone may include 2 or more fonts and make the zip file too
> > big to upload.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Otto <otto at ottodestruct.com> wrote:
> > > On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Edward Caissie
> > > <edward.caissie at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> Given Otto's two comments I am seriously thinking we should be,
> > starting with 3.3, RECOMMENDING all Theme assets (CSS, images, code,
> etc.)
> > be included with the Theme package/archive; then moving to REQUIRED with
> > 3.4 ... although the only real go-forward issue I see at the moment is
> the
> > inclusion of Google-fonts (low-risk but still contravening this idea)
> this
> > can be addressed as well (per Otto).
> > >
> > > Note that all of Google's Web Fonts are available for download and can
> > > be easily included in a theme without too much trouble. Only potential
> > > issue is size, which I'm still thinking about.
> > >
> > > Most of G's fonts are using the SIL Open Font License, which is GPLv2
> > > compatible. Some of the rest are using the Apache 2 License which is
> > > not GPLv2 compatible.
> > >
> > > If a theme includes a font (or anything else reasonably separate),
> > > make sure that:
> > > a) the license for that font is documented in the theme's readme or in
> > > the stylesheet (all relevant licenses should always be listed
> > > somewhere)
> > > b) that the license is a compatible one (listed here:
> > > http://codex.wordpress.org/Theme_Review#GPL-Compatible_Font_Licenses)
> > >
> > > -Otto
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
> > > http://lists.wordpress.org/mailman/listinfo/theme-reviewers
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 11:50:43 +1100
> From: Daniel Fenn <danielx386 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] external style sheets
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> And that was why I asked :P
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> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Simon Prosser <pross at pross.org.uk>
> wrote:
> > I seem to remember someone trying to upload a 10M theme a while ago lol
> >
> > On 16 November 2011 00:41, Daniel Fenn <danielx386 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Just a quick question, what the max file size that can be uploaded?
> >> Just hat someone may include 2 or more fonts and make the zip file too
> >> big to upload.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Otto <otto at ottodestruct.com> wrote:
> >> > On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Edward Caissie
> >> > <edward.caissie at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> Given Otto's two comments I am seriously thinking we should be,
> >> >> starting with 3.3, RECOMMENDING all Theme assets (CSS, images, code,
> etc.)
> >> >> be included with the Theme package/archive; then moving to REQUIRED
> with 3.4
> >> >> ... although the only real go-forward issue I see at the moment is
> the
> >> >> inclusion of Google-fonts (low-risk but still contravening this
> idea) this
> >> >> can be addressed as well (per Otto).
> >> >
> >> > Note that all of Google's Web Fonts are available for download and can
> >> > be easily included in a theme without too much trouble. Only potential
> >> > issue is size, which I'm still thinking about.
> >> >
> >> > Most of G's fonts are using the?SIL Open Font License, which is GPLv2
> >> > compatible. Some of the rest are using the Apache 2 License which is
> >> > not GPLv2 compatible.
> >> >
> >> > If a theme includes a font (or anything else reasonably separate),
> >> > make sure that:
> >> > a) the license for that font is documented in the theme's readme or in
> >> > the stylesheet (all relevant licenses should always be listed
> >> > somewhere)
> >> > b) that the license is a compatible one (listed here:
> >> > http://codex.wordpress.org/Theme_Review#GPL-Compatible_Font_Licenses)
> >> >
> >> > -Otto
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > theme-reviewers mailing list
> >> > theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
> >> > http://lists.wordpress.org/mailman/listinfo/theme-reviewers
> >> >
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> http://lists.wordpress.org/mailman/listinfo/theme-reviewers
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > My Blog: http://pross.org.uk/
> > Plugins : http://pross.org.uk/plugins/
> > Themes: http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/profile/pross
> >
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> >
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:51:31 -0600
> From: Emil Uzelac <emil at themeid.com>
> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] external style sheets
> To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
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> even if you include PSDs should not be that much ;)
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>
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Simon Prosser <pross at pross.org.uk> wrote:
>
> > I seem to remember someone trying to upload a 10M theme a while ago lol
> >
> >
> > On 16 November 2011 00:41, Daniel Fenn <danielx386 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Just a quick question, what the max file size that can be uploaded?
> >> Just hat someone may include 2 or more fonts and make the zip file too
> >> big to upload.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Otto <otto at ottodestruct.com> wrote:
> >> > On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Edward Caissie
> >> > <edward.caissie at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> Given Otto's two comments I am seriously thinking we should be,
> >> starting with 3.3, RECOMMENDING all Theme assets (CSS, images, code,
> etc.)
> >> be included with the Theme package/archive; then moving to REQUIRED with
> >> 3.4 ... although the only real go-forward issue I see at the moment is
> the
> >> inclusion of Google-fonts (low-risk but still contravening this idea)
> this
> >> can be addressed as well (per Otto).
> >> >
> >> > Note that all of Google's Web Fonts are available for download and can
> >> > be easily included in a theme without too much trouble. Only potential
> >> > issue is size, which I'm still thinking about.
> >> >
> >> > Most of G's fonts are using the SIL Open Font License, which is GPLv2
> >> > compatible. Some of the rest are using the Apache 2 License which is
> >> > not GPLv2 compatible.
> >> >
> >> > If a theme includes a font (or anything else reasonably separate),
> >> > make sure that:
> >> > a) the license for that font is documented in the theme's readme or in
> >> > the stylesheet (all relevant licenses should always be listed
> >> > somewhere)
> >> > b) that the license is a compatible one (listed here:
> >> > http://codex.wordpress.org/Theme_Review#GPL-Compatible_Font_Licenses)
> >> >
> >> > -Otto
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > theme-reviewers mailing list
> >> > theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
> >> > http://lists.wordpress.org/mailman/listinfo/theme-reviewers
> >> >
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> theme-reviewers mailing list
> >> theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
> >> http://lists.wordpress.org/mailman/listinfo/theme-reviewers
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > My Blog: http://pross.org.uk/
> > Plugins : http://pross.org.uk/plugins/
> > Themes: http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/profile/pross
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > http://lists.wordpress.org/mailman/listinfo/theme-reviewers
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