Why limit developers from using best practices for performance, like Google's CDN for jQuery and fonts with local fallbacks? <div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 4:51 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:theme-reviewers-request@lists.wordpress.org">theme-reviewers-request@lists.wordpress.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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1. Re: external style sheets (Ryan Frankel)<br>
2. Re: external style sheets (Otto)<br>
3. Re: external style sheets (Simon Prosser)<br>
4. Re: external style sheets (Daniel Fenn)<br>
5. Re: external style sheets (Emil Uzelac)<br>
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Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 19:43:55 -0500<br>
From: Ryan Frankel <<a href="mailto:ryan.frankel@gmail.com">ryan.frankel@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] external style sheets<br>
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There is also the consideration of the advantages a CDN hosted font brings.<br>
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On Nov 15, 2011, at 7:41 PM, Daniel Fenn wrote:<br>
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> Just a quick question, what the max file size that can be uploaded?<br>
> Just hat someone may include 2 or more fonts and make the zip file too<br>
> big to upload.<br>
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> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Otto <<a href="mailto:otto@ottodestruct.com">otto@ottodestruct.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Edward Caissie<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:edward.caissie@gmail.com">edward.caissie@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> Given Otto's two comments I am seriously thinking we should be, starting with 3.3, RECOMMENDING all Theme assets (CSS, images, code, etc.) be included with the Theme package/archive; then moving to REQUIRED with 3.4 ... although the only real go-forward issue I see at the moment is the inclusion of Google-fonts (low-risk but still contravening this idea) this can be addressed as well (per Otto).<br>
>><br>
>> Note that all of Google's Web Fonts are available for download and can<br>
>> be easily included in a theme without too much trouble. Only potential<br>
>> issue is size, which I'm still thinking about.<br>
>><br>
>> Most of G's fonts are using the SIL Open Font License, which is GPLv2<br>
>> compatible. Some of the rest are using the Apache 2 License which is<br>
>> not GPLv2 compatible.<br>
>><br>
>> If a theme includes a font (or anything else reasonably separate),<br>
>> make sure that:<br>
>> a) the license for that font is documented in the theme's readme or in<br>
>> the stylesheet (all relevant licenses should always be listed<br>
>> somewhere)<br>
>> b) that the license is a compatible one (listed here:<br>
>> <a href="http://codex.wordpress.org/Theme_Review#GPL-Compatible_Font_Licenses" target="_blank">http://codex.wordpress.org/Theme_Review#GPL-Compatible_Font_Licenses</a>)<br>
>><br>
>> -Otto<br>
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Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:47:54 -0600<br>
From: Otto <<a href="mailto:otto@ottodestruct.com">otto@ottodestruct.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] external style sheets<br>
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On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Daniel Fenn <<a href="mailto:danielx386@gmail.com">danielx386@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Just a quick question, what the max file size that can be uploaded?<br>
> Just hat someone may include 2 or more fonts and make the zip file too<br>
> big to upload.<br>
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8 meg.<br>
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-Otto<br>
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Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 00:49:26 +0000<br>
From: Simon Prosser <<a href="mailto:pross@pross.org.uk">pross@pross.org.uk</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] external style sheets<br>
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I seem to remember someone trying to upload a 10M theme a while ago lol<br>
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On 16 November 2011 00:41, Daniel Fenn <<a href="mailto:danielx386@gmail.com">danielx386@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Just a quick question, what the max file size that can be uploaded?<br>
> Just hat someone may include 2 or more fonts and make the zip file too<br>
> big to upload.<br>
><br>
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> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Otto <<a href="mailto:otto@ottodestruct.com">otto@ottodestruct.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> > On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Edward Caissie<br>
> > <<a href="mailto:edward.caissie@gmail.com">edward.caissie@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> >> Given Otto's two comments I am seriously thinking we should be,<br>
> starting with 3.3, RECOMMENDING all Theme assets (CSS, images, code, etc.)<br>
> be included with the Theme package/archive; then moving to REQUIRED with<br>
> 3.4 ... although the only real go-forward issue I see at the moment is the<br>
> inclusion of Google-fonts (low-risk but still contravening this idea) this<br>
> can be addressed as well (per Otto).<br>
> ><br>
> > Note that all of Google's Web Fonts are available for download and can<br>
> > be easily included in a theme without too much trouble. Only potential<br>
> > issue is size, which I'm still thinking about.<br>
> ><br>
> > Most of G's fonts are using the SIL Open Font License, which is GPLv2<br>
> > compatible. Some of the rest are using the Apache 2 License which is<br>
> > not GPLv2 compatible.<br>
> ><br>
> > If a theme includes a font (or anything else reasonably separate),<br>
> > make sure that:<br>
> > a) the license for that font is documented in the theme's readme or in<br>
> > the stylesheet (all relevant licenses should always be listed<br>
> > somewhere)<br>
> > b) that the license is a compatible one (listed here:<br>
> > <a href="http://codex.wordpress.org/Theme_Review#GPL-Compatible_Font_Licenses" target="_blank">http://codex.wordpress.org/Theme_Review#GPL-Compatible_Font_Licenses</a>)<br>
> ><br>
> > -Otto<br>
> > _______________________________________________<br>
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Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 11:50:43 +1100<br>
From: Daniel Fenn <<a href="mailto:danielx386@gmail.com">danielx386@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] external style sheets<br>
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And that was why I asked :P<br>
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On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Simon Prosser <<a href="mailto:pross@pross.org.uk">pross@pross.org.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
> I seem to remember someone trying to upload a 10M theme a while ago lol<br>
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> On 16 November 2011 00:41, Daniel Fenn <<a href="mailto:danielx386@gmail.com">danielx386@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Just a quick question, what the max file size that can be uploaded?<br>
>> Just hat someone may include 2 or more fonts and make the zip file too<br>
>> big to upload.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Otto <<a href="mailto:otto@ottodestruct.com">otto@ottodestruct.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Edward Caissie<br>
>> > <<a href="mailto:edward.caissie@gmail.com">edward.caissie@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> >> Given Otto's two comments I am seriously thinking we should be,<br>
>> >> starting with 3.3, RECOMMENDING all Theme assets (CSS, images, code, etc.)<br>
>> >> be included with the Theme package/archive; then moving to REQUIRED with 3.4<br>
>> >> ... although the only real go-forward issue I see at the moment is the<br>
>> >> inclusion of Google-fonts (low-risk but still contravening this idea) this<br>
>> >> can be addressed as well (per Otto).<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Note that all of Google's Web Fonts are available for download and can<br>
>> > be easily included in a theme without too much trouble. Only potential<br>
>> > issue is size, which I'm still thinking about.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Most of G's fonts are using the?SIL Open Font License, which is GPLv2<br>
>> > compatible. Some of the rest are using the Apache 2 License which is<br>
>> > not GPLv2 compatible.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > If a theme includes a font (or anything else reasonably separate),<br>
>> > make sure that:<br>
>> > a) the license for that font is documented in the theme's readme or in<br>
>> > the stylesheet (all relevant licenses should always be listed<br>
>> > somewhere)<br>
>> > b) that the license is a compatible one (listed here:<br>
>> > <a href="http://codex.wordpress.org/Theme_Review#GPL-Compatible_Font_Licenses" target="_blank">http://codex.wordpress.org/Theme_Review#GPL-Compatible_Font_Licenses</a>)<br>
>> ><br>
>> > -Otto<br>
>> > _______________________________________________<br>
>> > theme-reviewers mailing list<br>
>> > <a href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org">theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</a><br>
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>> ><br>
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Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:51:31 -0600<br>
From: Emil Uzelac <<a href="mailto:emil@themeid.com">emil@themeid.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] external style sheets<br>
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even if you include PSDs should not be that much ;)<br>
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On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Simon Prosser <<a href="mailto:pross@pross.org.uk">pross@pross.org.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
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> I seem to remember someone trying to upload a 10M theme a while ago lol<br>
><br>
><br>
> On 16 November 2011 00:41, Daniel Fenn <<a href="mailto:danielx386@gmail.com">danielx386@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Just a quick question, what the max file size that can be uploaded?<br>
>> Just hat someone may include 2 or more fonts and make the zip file too<br>
>> big to upload.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Otto <<a href="mailto:otto@ottodestruct.com">otto@ottodestruct.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Edward Caissie<br>
>> > <<a href="mailto:edward.caissie@gmail.com">edward.caissie@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> >> Given Otto's two comments I am seriously thinking we should be,<br>
>> starting with 3.3, RECOMMENDING all Theme assets (CSS, images, code, etc.)<br>
>> be included with the Theme package/archive; then moving to REQUIRED with<br>
>> 3.4 ... although the only real go-forward issue I see at the moment is the<br>
>> inclusion of Google-fonts (low-risk but still contravening this idea) this<br>
>> can be addressed as well (per Otto).<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Note that all of Google's Web Fonts are available for download and can<br>
>> > be easily included in a theme without too much trouble. Only potential<br>
>> > issue is size, which I'm still thinking about.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Most of G's fonts are using the SIL Open Font License, which is GPLv2<br>
>> > compatible. Some of the rest are using the Apache 2 License which is<br>
>> > not GPLv2 compatible.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > If a theme includes a font (or anything else reasonably separate),<br>
>> > make sure that:<br>
>> > a) the license for that font is documented in the theme's readme or in<br>
>> > the stylesheet (all relevant licenses should always be listed<br>
>> > somewhere)<br>
>> > b) that the license is a compatible one (listed here:<br>
>> > <a href="http://codex.wordpress.org/Theme_Review#GPL-Compatible_Font_Licenses" target="_blank">http://codex.wordpress.org/Theme_Review#GPL-Compatible_Font_Licenses</a>)<br>
>> ><br>
>> > -Otto<br>
>> > _______________________________________________<br>
>> > theme-reviewers mailing list<br>
>> > <a href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org">theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</a><br>
>> > <a href="http://lists.wordpress.org/mailman/listinfo/theme-reviewers" target="_blank">http://lists.wordpress.org/mailman/listinfo/theme-reviewers</a><br>
>> ><br>
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