[theme-reviewers] Proposed WordPress 3.3 Theme Review Guidelines Revisions

[Chip Bennett]

All,

Please ensure that discussion specific to the proposed Guidelines revisions
takes place in the comments to the post on the Make site - mainly, to help
ensure posterity. (Not everyone follows this list.)

Otto's back-and-forth explanation is exactly the kind of thing that will be
beneficial to everyone in the future, should similar questions arise
regarding this particular requirement.

Chip

On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Otto <otto at ottodestruct.com> wrote:

> Good. Now, _that said_, not all translation programs care about
> namespaces there. So some tools do indeed work with variables there,
> simply because they're ignoring the namespace anyway.
>
> However, we do care about namespaces. Especially if some kind of
> mechanism was going to be created to make translations much easier all
> around...
>
> -Otto
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Tyler Cunningham
> <seizedpropaganda at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Otto,
> > Those are good points, I never thought about the translation functions
> being
> > parsed by non-PHP applications/programs.
> > I personally have never used a variable in a translation function but
> from
> > the perspective of someone who utilizes variables a lot it struck me as
> odd
> > to deny their use. Now I understand though, so thank you for the
> > explanation.
> > Regards,
> >
> > Tyler Cunningham  |  Founder, COO - CyberChimps LLC
> > @tylerbcunning
> > http://gplus.to/tylercunningham
> > http://linkedin.com/in/tylerbcunningham
> > tyler at cyberchimps.com
> >
> > On Thursday, November 10, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Otto wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Tyler Cunningham
> > <seizedpropaganda at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I still think this is a bit much to be a REQUIRED. I see Mark's point and
> > I'm sure he's right when it comes to automation, but shouldn't the
> decision
> > ultimately be left up to the theme developer?
> > I think this would be a much better RECOMMENDED, does anyone else agree?
> >
> > No. Doing it with variables is just plain wrong, on all levels. It's
> > not really a matter of choice, it's a matter of standards. The strings
> > need to be capable of being parsed by other code. This is
> > code-parsing-other-code here, and that's the basis of all the gettext
> > translation mechanism.
> > In the plugins area, for example, there's a handy button on the
> > backend for plugin developers to generate the POT files for your
> > plugin automatically. If you use a variable, then they don't work.
> > Why? Because those programs don't *run* your code, they scan it for __
> > and _e and similar, then generate the necessary translation files. All
> > translation tools work in this manner.
> > So put simply, the use of variables for the translation namespace
> > fundamentally *doesn't work* with any existing translation tools. The
> > code should be machine parse-able, and it is, if you don't rely on any
> > variables in your translatable strings.
> > -Otto
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