[theme-reviewers] Comments are closed on pages

[Edward Caissie]

Although there are a great many variations to this if one wants to take into
account (standard) comments, pingback, and trackbacks (24 combinations are
possible, but pingbacks and trackbacks are essentially "special" comments)
there is still a case in point where there are no comments of any form which
still gives reason to expect there be no "comments are closed" message on
these pages.

No comments, comments closed, no pings/trackbacks => "comments are closed"
... no message to appear on *pages*.


Cais.

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 10:41 PM, Justin Tadlock <justin at justintadlock.com>wrote:

>  The reason my themes have a message is because I opened a discussion on my
> forums and had real theme users make the decision.  I have a lot of
> opinionated users too. :)  I wouldn't consider that rare or a special use
> case.  This was about a three-month discussion.
>
> Also, there are several scenarios for this type of thing:
>
> * No comments, comments closed, pings closed.
> * No comments, comments closed, pings open.
> * No comments, comments open, pings closed.
> * Has comments, comments closed, pings closed.
> * Has comments, comments closed, pings open.
> * Has comments, comments open, pings closed.
>
> I have these for posts and pages in my personal test data.  I don't think
> we have all of them in the theme unit test data.
>
> Having a catchall requirement (based on our opinions) doesn't really cut
> it.  A theme developer has a lot of options just based on that list of how
> to handle comments.  Many people are going to look at it a different way and
> have their own opinion about the best method of handling comments.
>
> There are some things I believe we should just leave up to the theme
> developer (this being one of those things).  Granted, 90% of the themes that
> come rolling through don't seem to have a lot of thought put behind them.
>
>
> On 3/1/2011 7:56 PM, Edward Caissie wrote:
>
> The no "comments are closed" message is a legacy item that may need to be
> reviewed. Although I agree with its current implementation regarding pages I
> would be open to a compelling argument to allow for special use cases; but,
> again, the Theme repository is not a destination for rare use-case themes
> but one for themes that are designed to meet a great many users needs and
> wants and essentially a more or less generic use-case fashion.
>
>
> Cais.
>
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 7:02 PM, Justin Tadlock <justin at justintadlock.com>wrote:
>
>>  Actually, I would argue that this message should be displayed if pings
>> are open:
>>
>> "Comments are closed but trackbacks and pingbacks are open."
>>
>> I would never say a theme couldn't have that.  Even my themes show a
>> message similar to that.  And, this was a decision made by my theme users,
>> not me.
>>
>> Personally, I don't even check for a "comments are closed" message at all
>> in my reviews.  I consider that a theme developer's choice, even if I don't
>> like the message sitting there on pages.
>>
>>
>> On 3/1/2011 4:49 PM, Chip Bennett wrote:
>>
>> Correct. Pages shouldn't display any sort of notice regarding comments, if
>> comments are closed. Primarily, this is to facilitate Page-based sites that
>> use WordPress, for which references to comments on Pages would be
>> undesirable.
>>
>>  Chip
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Daniel Tara <contact at onedesigns.com>wrote:
>>
>>>  None. Static pages must not display any notices when comments are
>>> closed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* theme-reviewers-bounces at lists.wordpress.org [mailto:
>>> theme-reviewers-bounces at lists.wordpress.org] *On Behalf Of *Robert
>>> Ambartsumov
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 02, 2011 12:45 AM
>>> *To:* theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
>>> *Subject:* [theme-reviewers] Comments are closed on pages
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> which of the following can be displayed on pages with closed comments:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Responses are currently closed, but you can trackback from your own site.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Comments are closed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I belive 2nd one cant be displayed, but first one?
>>>
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