[wp-trac] [WordPress Trac] #50699: Fix and improve arranging metaboxes

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#50699: Fix and improve arranging metaboxes
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 Reporter:  azaozz                               |       Owner:  azaozz
     Type:  task (blessed)                       |      Status:  assigned
 Priority:  normal                               |   Milestone:  5.6
Component:  Administration                       |     Version:
 Severity:  normal                               |  Resolution:
 Keywords:  has-patch needs-testing needs-dev-   |     Focuses:  ui,
  note                                           |  accessibility
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Comment (by azaozz):

 Replying to [comment:32 johnjamesjacoby]:
 > I don’t think anyone is confused about your reasons, and we aren’t
 looking for you to retype them out differently to re-justify them.

 Ha, sorry about repeating myself. Seems not all people are "on the same
 page" here, was trying to help with that.

 > Revert this change and never look back.
 > ...
 > A lot like most of the Gutenberg UI and UX, the logic behind this
 concept is fundamentally flawed...

 Didn't know you felt so strongly about preserving the status quo and
 against attempts to make things work better...

 Lets try to get to a common ground :)

 Could you, and everybody that commented here, please answer the following
 question (from your personal experience using WordPress in production):

 Is arranging of posboxes on the Dashboard screen a "screen option" or not?
 Please keep in mind that this is not the same as arranging of widgets on
 the old widgets screen as that set the widgets order on the front-end. It
 is not the same as arranging menus as that sets them to primary menus,
 sub-menus, etc. For widgets and menus this is a primary functionality.
 Similarly plugins that reuse the same concept may use it as a primary
 functionality or for (non-essential) setting of the screen appearance
 similar to number of columns, etc.

 > > I'm thinking that having some explanation text in the Screen Options
 tab is pretty essential to help with discoverability
 >
 > This is absolutely the worst place to put anything that it is essential.
 Users completely gloss over the very existence of the Screen Options and
 Help tabs.

 Yeah, I agree. From my limited testing most users don't look there.

 > And the column setting makes perfect sense to be in Screen Options – it
 is a screen option. It could also be a user preference, which Screen
 Options is also frequently used for.

 Hmmm, ok, if users just "gloss over" the Screen Options tab, what's the
 point in having it in its current state? What would be a good way to
 improve/enhance it?

 > I’m also very worried that it is still possible today for a single
 person to remove a pivotal piece of WordPress UX like this, hinting at a
 desire to abolish it completely, inside of a ticket with no related
 discussion - not even a nod of approval.

 Think there's some misunderstanding here. "pivotal piece of WordPress UX"
 as in arranging screen elements on the Dashboard screen? Also, this patch
 was committed to facilitate testing, please see [#comment:14 comment:14],
 and the ticket was left open awaiting reviews and feedback. Negative
 feedback, when constructive, is very valuable too :)

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Ticket URL: <https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/50699#comment:39>
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