[wp-trac] [WordPress Trac] #27159: Removing TinyMCE buttons to improve user experience

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#27159: Removing TinyMCE buttons to improve user experience
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 Reporter:  hugobaeta    |       Owner:
     Type:  enhancement  |      Status:  new
 Priority:  normal       |   Milestone:  Awaiting Review
Component:  TinyMCE      |     Version:  trunk
 Severity:  normal       |  Resolution:
 Keywords:               |     Focuses:  ui, administration
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Comment (by hugobaeta):

 Replying to [comment:11 nacin]:
 > An editor that strictly controls WYG is not a very good WYSIWYG
 experience ([https://twitter.com/ahockley/status/411952175359594496 hat-
 tip]).

 Thank you for your comment, I understand what your point is. I know how
 complicated a change like this might be.

 That said, I think this brings up another type of discussion: does
 WordPress really has a WYSIWYG editor? I don't think it does, unless the
 theme designers do an excellent job on the editor stylesheet - which
 mostly doesn't happen. We have a sort of Visual Editor, closer to a
 WYSIWYM (What you see is what you mean) editor - and I think that is
 perfectly fine for the backend IMO. The front end editor, on the other
 hand, needs to be (and is) more literal to a WYSIWYG.

 Now the interesting thing about the kitchensink is that is actually hides
 currently options that, in my opinion, are more important - namely the
 block formatting (headings, etc), and maybe even the undo, and the pasting
 options (but pasting issues can be easily fixed and those buttons can be
 eliminated imo).

 But change is always risky, so I understand the reservations. I'm all in
 for helping out with things relating to this :)

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