[wp-meta] [Making WordPress.org] #6511: Bring back the active install growth chart
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#6511: Bring back the active install growth chart
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Reporter: markzahra | Owner: (none)
Type: enhancement | Status: new
Priority: high | Milestone:
Component: Plugin Directory | Resolution:
Keywords: |
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Comment (by joostdevalk):
I agree with @markzahra that this should be brought back ASAP. Plugin
developers rely on this data to see whether they're doing the right thing
for their customers. If there are reasons to want to replace this data
with something, I'd suggest:
- bringing back the data until the alternative is available;
- opening a discussion with the community of plugin developers about
whether the alternative suits their needs;
- developing out in the open, as befits an open source project, and being
very specific about what these stats represent.
I understand @johnjamesjacoby's need to defend the Meta team and try and
be nice to everyone involved. I don't disagree that they should not get
shit for this personally. Which doesn't mean that this decision should not
be challenged, loudly, with project leadership.
So, @matt, @chanthaboune, while I hope and want to believe this was not
done for anti-competitive reasons, the optics are against you. The fact
that we don't have open numbers about installs, like literally every other
Open Source project does, seems in itself a weird decision.
I've heard two reasons mentioned in the past for not showing them:
* Security
* The data is invalid
**The security argument**
Obfuscating plugin install numbers for security reasons, which is what's
often mentioned, is honestly reasoning I personally disagree with. You can
get data on large plugins quite easily through other sources, if you want
to decide which plugin to hack. WordPress not showing plugin install data
doesn't help security, but it does make it harder to ascertain how many
sites are still at risk when something ''is'' happening. What's needed for
plugin developers is this data which shows direct feedback without lag.
Security through obscurity is not the way.
**The data validity argument**
The fact that these numbers might not be entirely valid (because they
contain loads of test installs, and perhaps a dozen or so other reasons)
is something that we could (and probably ''should'') just add in a note in
the interface. The ''trends'' in this data are **super** important for
plugin developers, as seen by the many many people that have responded to
[https://wordpress.slack.com/archives/C02QB8GMM/p1664525003424199 this in
Slack].
So: I implore you to open up this data. First by bringing it back, and
then potentially by building something even more open for plugin
developers to look at.
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Ticket URL: <https://meta.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/6511#comment:6>
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