[wp-hackers] new menu management 3.0

Japh japhie at gmail.com
Mon Jun 21 13:34:44 UTC 2010

Great point, Ash!  I completely agree with all the points you raise, and
would like to add one of my own, though mine is really more of a feature

It would be great if you could set the top level pages for a menu, and then
tell it to automatically drill-down through child pages as well, rather than
having to manually create the entire multi-tiered menu structure and then
also maintain that.  Also, it's slightly misleading that the default
behaviour for Twenty Ten if you add pages but no menu, is to fallback to
wp_page_menu and output a nice multi-tiered menu... but then when you create
a menu of top-level pages only, this automatic behaviour disappears.  Like
Ash said, I understand why, I just think it's counter-intuitive.

At the moment, while I applaud the effort that has gone into menus for WP
3.0, I wouldn't consider them to be production-ready and there's a lot of
work left to be done.


On 21 June 2010 14:25, Ash Goodman <ash at thinkinginvain.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
> I am playing around with 3.0 and the new menu system. I love it but I
> have noticed it doesn't play well with the existing menu management
> features.
> Forgive me if this has been brought up before. On the page editor
> screen if you select a parent page from the drop down this is not
> respected by the new menus interface and vice versa. I understand why
> (what with categories and custom post types etc), but shouldn't the
> old ways of managing the menus be hidden if the new way is activated?
> Maybe something that happens when a theme is activated that declares
> support for the new menu system?
> I can just imagine users banging their heads against the wall trying
> to edit the menu from the page editor. Telling them, 'oh I know those
> controls are still there, but they don't work, use the other instead'
> isn't going to cut it. Its opening the door for unnecessary confusion.
> Even better I think would be if some way could be found to handle menu
> management *both* on the page editor screen and using the new
> interface. It makes sense from a usability viewpoint that you would be
> able to assign the page to a menu and a location within that menu when
> creating the page without having to go to a separate interface to do
> it. But it also makes sense to be able to edit menus en masse from one
> location.  I think if we can have the ideal solution we need both
> options.
> Just my 2 cents please don't flame!
> Ash
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