[wp-hackers] Future of wp-hackers
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Wed Sep 26 13:14:15 GMT 2007
With 940 people on the list, noise is guaranteed.
I support separation of the list into various topics. For example:
* wp-discussion: Anything WP related
* wp-plugins: Plugin developer chat
* wp-core: Specifically discussing the direction of core
Currently, there's no formal documentation of decisions made on the
list. It would be a major step forward to formalise decisions and the
decision making process.
Matt Mullenweg wrote:
> > But all the people
> > participating in this discussion were not aware that this was already
> > implemented.
> "Discussions are dominated chiefly by people who have time to dominate
> discussions, which over time includes fewer and fewer of the people
> who actually should."
> July and August, two months which had heightened activity on
> wp-hackers had the lowest participation from any core developers,
> including myself.
> Arguments over floating boxes and whether to use radio buttons or
> checkboxes go on for twenty posts between people who don't realize
> that the feature was implemented in core weeks before.
> People talking past each other about PHP5 (AFTER a decision had been
> made) generates hundreds of posts, yet Alex's post about unit tests,
> which has the potential to have a real impact on the quality of WP in
> the future, thuds with nary a response.
> Unreasonable arguments, personal attacks, flame wars... the things
> that have been generating most of the discussion on this list have
> little to do with the success (or failure) of WordPress, unfortunately
> that means the people who work the hardest day to day in the trenches
> will avoid or batch their time here.
> Perhaps a new mailing list with moderated membership, or that was only
> open to those who had made substantive contributions to the codebase
> would be a good middle ground between private discussions, IRC, and
> wp-hackers. I honestly don't know.
> > Unfortunately nobody aware of this already being
> > implemented posted a comment.
> I posted to the thread, though, on 9-15-2007:
>  Which I pointed out:
> I'm not directing this at anyone personally, which is why I've started
> a new thread even though I'm quoting a previous one, but I think
> everyone should take a step back and examine what exactly we're doing
> when we press the button that sends a message to the 940 members of
> this list.
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