[theme-reviewers] Redux framework may be dialing home

[Emil Uzelac]

We don't want trackers period! So far I had to suspend about 10 themes and
there is bunch more. Not cool at all :(

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Dovy Paukstys <dovy at reduxframework.com>
wrote:

> @Tammie Lister Indeed. We want to be completely transparent.
>
> We do opt-in tracking to discover any issues we may have with various
> plugins and setup as we're integrated to themes and plugins. That is open
> and wide for anyone to see. We do this because we don't want people to
> think we're "stealing" anything that pinpoints them, and also lets users
> see what they're up against when developing.
>
> The sites are completely anonymous. There's no way for us to track it to
> any individual site at all.
>
> We took direction for our tracking class from the quite widely
> used WordPress SEO by Yoast plugin.
>
> The class does the following:
>
>    - Checks once a week and submits to our tracking service using a
>    unique one-way hash.
>
> That's it. Then we compare our user base vs what we're coding about. When
> we see a user post about an inconsistency with a theme or plugin, we
> inspect more heavily if there is more widely used.
>
> If users wish, they can also load their own "hash" in their theme to see a
> drill-down of their theme's data. All that does is add an extra developer
> key, and allow us to filter the results.
>
> @Srikanth Koneru We did not update to WordPress.com since I didn't think
> WordPress.com allows frameworks and we do not have access. If WP.com DOES
> allow Redux, then man I need to redo my WordPress.com themes I am building!
>
> @Emil Uzelac Would you prefer us to not visibly show the tracking data?
> We use it show statistics and most used plugins that utilize Redux.
>
> @Afzaal (ThinkUpThemes) Is the concern that we're tracking the issue or
> that we're showing it publicly? This is COMPLETELY anonymous. If it's a
> concern, we can remove that site instantly. We'll just put it behind our
> developer's login wall instead.
>
> @everyone Again all, we are completely transparent here and we're not
> doing anything different than one of the most successful plugins on
> WordPress.org does, except that we're showing the data to be transparent.
>
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Tammie Lister <karmatosed at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>  So Dovy, can you explain this also:
>> http://jsbin.com/ugELElU/1
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tammie
>>
>>
>> On 16/10/2014 20:28, Dovy Paukstys wrote:
>>
>> @Otto + Others:
>> Lead developer of Redux Framework here.
>>
>> In regards to Redux Framework, there was indeed an error in our code
>> causing some instances to dial-back even when set to opt-out. This was not
>> our intent or desire to "dial-home". It was a mistake in coding between JS
>> and PHP.
>>
>>  A patch has been made and new version of Redux has been deployed to
>> WP.com and our repository. Everything should now fit well within your
>> requirements.
>>
>>  Redux aims to always follow the guidelines. If you find any issue in
>> the future, do not hesitate to contact me directly at
>> dovy at reduxframework.com. I am now also on this list and will watch for
>> any issues that may come up.
>>
>>  In our next newsletter I will also urge developers to update to the
>> newest version of Redux especially for WP.com themes.
>>
>>  Thank you.
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Towfiq I. <tislam100 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Before suspending, I request you to warn the developers about this in
>>> the review ticket. Many of the developers doesn't even know about this. One
>>> of my themes uses redux and I noticed the tracking.php file while
>>> developing and removed it. Maybe they should have a chance to do that too.
>>>
>>> Just my two cents
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 12:29 AM, Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  I'll see if I can find them all in trac.
>>>>
>>>>  On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Otto <otto at ottodestruct.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  The hell?
>>>>>
>>>>>  The answer is a very clear cut no, you can't do that. If any themes
>>>>> in the directory currently have this, they should be immediately suspended.
>>>>>
>>>>>  -Otto
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:09 PM, Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  Not to mention that what they done here, well sucks:
>>>>>> http://jsbin.com/ugELElU/1. Redux is revealing more than they should!
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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