[theme-reviewers] Theme Names

Thu Jun 26 18:05:03 UTC 2014

It's not the matter of ranking. It's the matter of choices of theme name
and manipulation. I feel The Box is so much manipulating Catch Box name. I
don't care about ranking.

Also I am not totally against it. But I wanted to ask, if this is fair or
not. Why is this type of theme getting approved and live and how we are
going to handle this type of issue in future.

On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 11:46 PM, Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me> wrote:

> Let me ask you a question: If you have *Example Responsive* do you think
> that your theme will rank better?
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Catch Themes <info at catchthemes.com>
> wrote:
>
>> But this doesn't answer my question.
>>
>> Catch Box Vs The Box : In Catch out theme in actually named Box, but to
>> make it unique we added Catch as Prefix. So, it became Catch Box. Then
>> doesn't this conflict with The Box.
>> Responsive Vs Simple Responsive Vs Catch Responsive: If the box is
>> allowed then why not Catch Responsive. I am totally confused.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 11:39 PM, Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>    - Themes are *not* to use related Theme names (e.g. *WP Theme Name*, *Theme
>>>    Name WP*, *The Theme Name*, etc.) in their name.
>>>
>>> As per
>>> http://make.wordpress.org/themes/guidelines/guidelines-license-theme-name-credit-links-up-sell-themes/
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Stephen Cui <scui2005 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I will have a theme called Catch The Box. :-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Catch Themes <info at catchthemes.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Then what about Responsive Vs Catch Responsive Vs Box Responsive
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 11:31 PM, Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> No it does not mean that you can add any names.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It means that we are not going to police the names like "Jumbo News"
>>>>>> vs "Tiny News".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Catch Themes <info at catchthemes.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WOW this means we can add any names.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 11:24 PM, Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We stop policing the names ;)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Catch Themes <
>>>>>>>> info at catchthemes.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> what about the theme that just got live with the theme name "The
>>>>>>>>> Box" http://wordpress.org/themes/the-box/. Doesn't this conflict
>>>>>>>>> with our theme name "Catch Box"
>>>>>>>>> http://wordpress.org/themes/catch-box/. It's making same strategy
>>>>>>>>> and looks like wanted to capture the user of Catch Box with focus on box.
>>>>>>>>> Just wanted to confirm with the Admins whether this type of name is allowed
>>>>>>>>> or not.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 8:53 AM, Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (FCFS) should apply for Theme names and it does, however at the
>>>>>>>>>> same time too similar makes directory look ugly.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 8:46 PM, Edward Caissie <
>>>>>>>>>> edward.caissie at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Common sense should be the best approach ... even though I had
>>>>>>>>>>> "Opus Primus" in the theme repository for some time prior, the "Opus" theme
>>>>>>>>>>> was still approved. Personally, I have no issues with that, and did not get
>>>>>>>>>>> involved in that conversation when it was happening.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I had actually considered using Opus myself but chose a
>>>>>>>>>>> different naming convention due to the "branding" ideas I have for Opus ...
>>>>>>>>>>> er, Opus Primus. I guess I better get used to referring to my own theme by
>>>>>>>>>>> its proper name ... Opus Primus (*grin*)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> As it is, I do not think it would be wise for us to eliminate
>>>>>>>>>>> theme name possibilities based on another more or less generic name already
>>>>>>>>>>> in use, or submitted, but we should definitely take into consideration as
>>>>>>>>>>> theme authors that using a more unique name would be more beneficial in the
>>>>>>>>>>> long run than trying to capitalize on a common term. If you build something
>>>>>>>>>>> noteworthy the name itself will not matter so much.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Edward Caissie
>>>>>>>>>>> aka Cais.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 9:01 PM, Justin Tadlock <
>>>>>>>>>>> justin at justintadlock.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The theme name Solar would be too generic.  It'd be unfair for
>>>>>>>>>>>> us to police something like Solar Flare because you shouldn't get the
>>>>>>>>>>>> rights to all uses of the single word "solar".  On the other hand, if you
>>>>>>>>>>>> had submitted Solar Flare and someone else came along and submitted Solar
>>>>>>>>>>>> Flare Plus, that's when we have a problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What we really want is for theme authors to come up with unique
>>>>>>>>>>>> names.  Some of that just takes a little common sense when we review themes
>>>>>>>>>>>> or just awareness that this is something we need to look at.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 2:10 AM, Jose Castaneda <
>>>>>>>>>>>> jomcastaneda at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes and no. It would be like me submitting a theme called
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Solar and then somebody else submitting a theme called Solar Flare. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>> biggest thing really is communicating that with the author. If they really
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have an issue with it we can, as a team, come up with a reasonable
>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution, right? Granted some are more active than others but more feedback
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is better than none. :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's just not turn this into a witch hunt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Srikanth Koneru <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tskk79 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But Business is toooooo generic and fair game according to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chip.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 4:25 AM, Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Reviewers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (*while we hate to Police the names*)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Before we do an actual Theme review, can you please check
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the names first and if the name is not appropriate, don't approve, or even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> continue with the ticket at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have been approving names similar to:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    - My Business
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    - Your Business
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    - Our Business
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    - Flat Bootstrap
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    - Real Bootstrap
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    - Better Bootstrap
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    - Good News
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    - All News
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    - Real-Estate News
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's not good and also makes admins job difficult when we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to reopen the ticket and close as not-approved because of the Theme
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> name.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So if we already have a Theme called *Example*, *WP Example*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> won't be appropriate, therefore should not be approved either.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Names must not be related to another Theme and no SEO
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> injected keywords either.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a full-stop and instant not-approval, no questions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> asked.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why? Two reasons.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Our guideline says:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    - Themes are required to use appropriate Theme Names.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    - Themes are not to use related Theme names (e.g. WP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    Twenty Fourteen, Twenty Fourteen WP, The Twenty Fourteen, etc.) in their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    name.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) When Theme name changes it goes into different priority
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and won't be associated with first submission in anyway. It becomes a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> totally different beast.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is to avoid confusion, not only for users, but also for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> authors as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once we mark the ticket live there's nothing more we can do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about, so if you can, let's try to avoid that please!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Emil
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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