[theme-reviewers] GPL-Compatibility

[Emil Uzelac]

All right, we can continue on our blog now:
http://make.wordpress.org/themes/2014/06/05/gpl-compatible-images/


On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me> wrote:

> This is a very healthy discussion.
> Do you mind if we move this to our blog and continue from there?
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 9:30 AM, Marga Satrya <satrya at satrya.me> wrote:
>
>> I have 4 site list to get free images for my work including theme demo.
>> http://hiresstock.com
>> http://picjumbo.com
>> http://pixabay.com
>> http://unsplash.com
>>
>> After I read some answer. None of them are gpl compatible. If I searched
>> images under CC0, i just found a small good images.
>>
>> My question, where I can get a good images for theme demos with almost
>> the same quality with 4 site above?
>>
>> If I purchase an images, does it compatible with gpl?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Satrya
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 05, 2014 at 8:05 PM, Stephen Cui <scui2005 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks - this is the guidelines I want to clarify.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Explicit declaration has been required for quite some time. The latest
>>> Guidelines revisions now require that explicit declaration to be included
>>> in the Theme readme file, or a license file.
>>>
>>> With explicit declaration, there is not need for reviewers to verify
>>> every single source, as long as you recognize and understand the terms of
>>> the license being declared.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Stephen Cui <scui2005 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I understand the screenshots are already policed and GPL applies to
>>>> whole.theme. This is very clear. The question are:
>>>>
>>>> - if we require theme authors to explicitly declare the source and
>>>> licence for every single image (including images used in screenshot).
>>>> - if the reviewer has to verify every single source.
>>>>
>>>> If this is the case, many (if not most) themes fail this criteria.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The Guidelines already state "100% GPL" for *everything* bundled with
>>>>> the Theme. I'm not sure how much clearer or more explicit they can be?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 8:33 AM, rose tail <metallicarosetail at gmail.com
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes exactly setting the new guideline is the best way for reviewer
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 6:16 PM, Stephen Cui <scui2005 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are we going to police the screenshot? I feel that we may went too
>>>>>>> far for reviewer. If this is the case, we will have to set the guideline
>>>>>>> for reviewers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Srikanth Koneru <tskk79 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> so many themes were approved with unsplash and pixabay images, have
>>>>>>>> to watch the #1 queue carefully
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Pixabay appears to be a site where copyright holders upload their
>>>>>>>>> images, and upon upload, Pixabay says, "by uploading, you agree to
>>>>>>>>> distribute your pictures under the terms we specify".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So, if the images are Public Domain outside of/prior to uploading
>>>>>>>>> to Pixabay, then they remain Public Domain. But if the images are only CC0
>>>>>>>>> because of the act of uploading to Pixabay, then they would be under the
>>>>>>>>> *actual* terms of the site. And those *actual* terms impose
>>>>>>>>> non-GPL-compatible restrictions.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So again: you have to go back to the license specified by the
>>>>>>>>> copyright holder.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Srikanth Koneru <tskk79 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But sometime back, you said the CC0 mentioned on the image
>>>>>>>>>> overrides that and you okayed pixabay, so that is now null and void?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 5:21 PM, rose tail <
>>>>>>>>>> metallicarosetail at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks a lot for you suggestion
>>>>>>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Chip Bennett <
>>>>>>>>>>> chip at chipbennett.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking at the site's license terms:
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://pixabay.com/en/service/terms/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think the images are licensed compatibly with GPL. For
>>>>>>>>>>>> example:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>    - *You may not use Images for* pornographic, unlawful or
>>>>>>>>>>>>    other immoral purposes, or in a way that can give a bad name to depicted
>>>>>>>>>>>>    persons, or to imply endorsement of products and services by identifiable
>>>>>>>>>>>>    persons, brands, organisations, etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>    - You are not allowed to mass download Images with an
>>>>>>>>>>>>    application, *or reuse a big part of the Images for
>>>>>>>>>>>>    redistribution on a similar Website*.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Neither of these terms is GPL-compatible.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 7:39 AM, Chip Bennett <
>>>>>>>>>>>> chip at chipbennett.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is the license of the specific image?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you don't know, then you can't use it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 7:38 AM, rose tail <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> metallicarosetail at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can image be used from pixabay or not ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Bryan Hadaway <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bhadaway at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, that's always a possibility and it absolutely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happens.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Someone might rip off someone else's work or otherwise
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> infringe and upload or re-release something under their claim of ownership
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or a new license, then anyone else that uses that work or even promotes it,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shares it with others, ends up inadvertently and ignorantly violating the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> original owner's rights.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All we can do is navigate the sometimes tricky world of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trademark and copyright law and respect other's rights as much as we can,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the information we have, be kind to one another, in other words, be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mature adults and just use our common sense.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then, if one day you get a legitimate cease and desist email
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (which sometimes is just as unfortunate for the person that has to send out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> such notices in the first place as it is for you to receive them), there's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no reason to be scared or get defensive, you should simply apologize, let
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them know that you had no idea you were violating their rights and work to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickly and amicably resolve the issue. I'd say 9/10 times, that's all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there is to it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, some people/companies might, on rare
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> occasion, try to seek monetary damages or to censor others whether you knew
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you were doing anything wrong or not. That's partly what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.chillingeffects.org/ is about covering.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's kind of a hope for the best, prepare for the worst type
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> situation. You can hope that everyone always does the right thing, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prepare for the fact that they most inevitably won't.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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