[theme-reviewers] Payment Option for Theme Reviews

Chip Bennett chip at chipbennett.net
Thu Jul 31 22:10:58 UTC 2014


There will be no money involved in WordPress Theme Reviews. FULLSTOP.

Seriously: it's a non-starter. We're not going there, in any way whatsoever.


On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Amirmasoud Sheidayi <amirmasood33 at gmail.com
> wrote:

> i think ever this idea can extend.
>
> a reviewer must review two theme at the time, one for free, one for money
>
> in this way both author that want to submit and update his/her theme will
> be happy and also free theme queue will be reviewed.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 1:20 AM, Michael Hebenstreit <michael at mhthemes.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Chip,
>>
>> yep - please don’t get me wrong. I didn’t want to say that you’re not
>> doing your job! And as I said in my first email, it’s fully understandable
>> that the review queue has very little priority in most people’s life.
>> Everyone usually has much more important things to do.
>>
>> I just meant that if this was a company, it would be quite ineffective.
>> And that we might need to find a new „incentive“ to give more people a
>> reason to contribute in this field. I think that would solve all problems.
>> But if the decision from „above“ is that these kind of things are not
>> allowed, then we can’t do anything about it, just wait for more nice people
>> with time to do a review. :-)
>>
>> Cheers,
>>  Michael
>>
>> Am 31.07.2014 um 22:43 schrieb Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net>:
>>
>> But the review queue *isn't* our job - not for the reviewers or for the
>> admins. It doesn't put a roof over our families' heads or food on our
>> table. And quite frankly, speaking for myself, I simply can't afford or
>> justify putting in the 10-20 hours a week it was taking to keep things
>> under better control.
>>
>> The review incentive program worked, and worked well. Unfortunately, it
>> wasn't possible to keep it from becoming a pay-to-play situation, and it
>> had to be discontinued. Thus far, nothing has been identified to take its
>> place, and we have gotten zero direction from anyone regarding what we can
>> do to replace the review incentive program.
>>
>> Despite its flaws, the review incentive program worked:
>>
>> <QueueTrends.png>
>>
>> The review queue disappeared (except for a peak around Christmas, as
>> always happens). And the rule that reopened tickets didn't count drove down
>> the number of tickets getting reopened. Most impressively, the queue time
>> decreased even as the input (tickets opened) increased. Now, as you can
>> see, the review queue was nowhere near as bad as it was before we
>> implemented the incentive program, but it is clearly trending in the wrong
>> direction.
>>
>> But in the end, this is a volunteer activity. Developers volunteer to
>> submit free Themes. Reviewers volunteer their time for free to review and
>> approve those Themes.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Michael Hebenstreit <
>> michael at mhthemes.com> wrote:
>>
>>> As stated before, unfortunately not. But as stated before, it seems
>>> volunteer work doesn’t work well anymore and it might be the time to think
>>> about new solutions. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t have a problem with
>>> waiting a few weeks for theme approval and I fully respect the work of all
>>> reviewers and admins. But when we are honest and rational, we have to admit
>>> that this doesn’t work well. If this would be a company and the review
>>> queue would be client issues, we wouldn’t do our job very well. :-)
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 31.07.2014 um 22:04 schrieb Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me>:
>>>
>>> Have you helped with the queue yet?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Michael Hebenstreit <
>>> michael at mhthemes.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> That doesn’t help the review queue and also won’t mark themes as live.
>>>> :-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 31.07.2014 um 21:58 schrieb Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me>:
>>>>
>>>> And you can get paid for reviews too, just go to
>>>> http://jobs.wordpress.net/ and problem solved ;)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Otto <otto at ottodestruct.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Michael Hebenstreit <
>>>>> michael at mhthemes.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> At the moment it seems that a lot of unexperienced reviewers are
>>>>>> being motivated on WordCamps around the world. They review a few themes
>>>>>> during the contribution day and then it’s over (in most cases).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WordCamps aren't recruitment drives. Those sessions should be
>>>>> entirely for the benefit of the people there, not for any other purpose.
>>>>> Our goal at WordCamps, overall, is to educate and inform (and meet and
>>>>> greet and BBQ and so on).
>>>>>
>>>>> If showing somebody how the theme review works and having them do one
>>>>> for hands on experience helps them in any way, then that was the point.
>>>>> Whether the result is useful to us or not is irrelevant, we only care
>>>>> whether or not it was useful for that person.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wordcamps are for the Wordcampers. If they decide to continue
>>>>> reviewing, great. If not, that's okay too.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Otto
>>>>>
>>>>>
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