[theme-reviewers] Frequent Updates

Sat Jul 26 02:57:00 UTC 2014

I mean as long as updates are meaningful, we don't have to wait a month
right?

On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 8:25 AM, Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me> wrote:

> I have no idea what you just said!
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 9:53 PM, Srikanth Koneru <tskk79 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> So to wrap it up, updates have to be meaningful/of substance like Otto
>> said but Emil's fiat of 1 month gap is voided?
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 8:03 AM, Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me> wrote:
>>
>>> Justin pays attention and is correct!
>>>
>>> No nothing new or something I am doing alone late on Friday, please see:
>>> http://lists.wordpress.org/pipermail/theme-reviewers/2014-June/018873.html
>>> and we have been contacting authors to either combine or stop meaningless
>>> updates.
>>>
>>> I wasn't naming names, or calling for discussion, but I am glad that we
>>> got your attention now ;)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 9:13 PM, Justin Tadlock <
>>> justin at justintadlock.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm OK with weekly releases (4 releases a month) if they're actually
>>>> bug fixes and/or enhancements.  I wouldn't knock anyone for that.  I really
>>>> wouldn't want to set some type of "time rule" either.
>>>>
>>>> This is nothing the admins have discussed.  Other than the thread I
>>>> mentioned, this is the first I'm hearing of this too.  I just wanted to
>>>> clarify what I believe Emil was getting at.
>>>>
>>>> What some of us have observed are probably a small fraction of people
>>>> who might be submitting some updates for the sole purpose of upping their
>>>> download counts.   If we start noticing a trends like this, it's going to
>>>> be a problem.  I believe Emil wanted to preemptively help stop some of
>>>> these types of problems before they got started.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 8:17 PM, Srikanth Koneru <tskk79 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There should be no time gap rule at all, Theme authors need not have
>>>>> to wait to release their next substantial update because of some arbitrary
>>>>> time limit.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 6:42 AM, Trent Lapinski <trent at cyberchimps.com
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> What about biweekly updates?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We need some kind of structure that we can agree on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Radically deciding on a Friday night to change everyone's release
>>>>>> schedules is a little drastic is it not? I thought this was an open source
>>>>>> community? How is this open source if I'm limited to how much I can change
>>>>>> the code I submit? Sounds pretty closed to me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's not like this policy is even going to be enforceable let alone
>>>>>> reduce tickets. This is simply a result of more theme authors and
>>>>>> companies, which is what the WordPress Foundation wanted. Now that there's
>>>>>> more of us submitting regularly suddenly we have to discontinue our release
>>>>>> schedules, and no longer be able to maintain our themes?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know you admins have a lot on your plates, but limiting the
>>>>>> communities contributions is counterintuitive is it not?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --Trent Lapinski
>>>>>> CyberChimps.com
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2014, at 5:30 PM, Srikanth Koneru <tskk79 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I add new skin every week and try to be resource neutral by reviewing
>>>>>> more than I submit.
>>>>>> Last week you were all dead set on avoiding subjective matters saying
>>>>>> trying to judge those matters are a waste of your time and this week you
>>>>>> drive straight into it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 5:45 AM, Justin Tadlock <
>>>>>> justin at justintadlock.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This was briefly discussed on the mailing list last month.  For
>>>>>>> reference:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://lists.wordpress.org/pipermail/theme-reviewers/2014-June/thread.html#18864
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Otto made it pretty clear that frequent and meaningless updates are
>>>>>>> not allowed, so I don't think that should be a problem.  This is something
>>>>>>> that's also done with plugins.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Basically, the idea though is to just add updates when there's
>>>>>>> something of significance like a new feature or a bug fix.  Don't send
>>>>>>> updates to us when you're changing code formatting or updating your
>>>>>>> documentation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If someone is sending in weekly bug fixes, then I don't think we're
>>>>>>> doing a very good job with the initial reviews.  If you're sending in
>>>>>>> weekly enhancements, what more could you possibly be adding?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I do agree with Trent that it is a healthy dev strategy for some
>>>>>>> people/companies to have, but we also have to balance that with the facts
>>>>>>> of the situation.  The situation is that we do human-powered theme reviews
>>>>>>> and still lack the manpower to handle them all.  If we're constantly having
>>>>>>> to go through the priority update queue, it leaves little time for reviews
>>>>>>> on new themes.  I don't like the situation, but this is where we're at.  I
>>>>>>> might be starting to get into another discussion, so I'll just stop there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 7:07 PM, <tskk79 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorry too subjective, where is the definition of how small is too
>>>>>>>> small.  don't you guys have better things to do :)
>>>>>>>> Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel
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