[theme-reviewers] Contribution days

Mon Jul 14 18:17:48 UTC 2014

We'll be having a Contribution Day at WordCamp Los Angeles this year
(September). I'm hoping to have Theme Review be part of that, and I'd be
open to trying new ideas/suggestions. So, if you'd like some guinea pigs,
just let me know and I'll see what we can do.

On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me> wrote:

> No idea is crazy! Anything we can do to improve is good and appreciated.
>
> Time is not always on our side, but if it was "I" would make a short video
> review followed by slide presentation or equivalent.
>
> Video would include the basic steps and what to look for while doing a
> review.
>
> This can also be just in a written form as well :)
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Tammie Lister <karmatosed at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> To summarise we have a few ways then for a contribution day to go:
>> - One theme that is reviewed by group together: This has issue of a large
>> group. At Manchester we had over 11 people - that's too big a group for one
>> contributor to lead through a review without people loosing interest. This
>> also relies on someone being able to assign to themselves.
>> - A small selection of themes (maybe earlier defined) : This poses issue
>> of how many, prior knowledge.
>> - Everyone gets one and does review: This has a higher fail rate and
>> could impact negatively on the submitter.
>>
>> Whatever we do more work for admins has to stop. I'm very against adding
>> to your already filled plates.
>>
>> What about the idea of a theme_doing_it_wrong that could be used to train
>> people on? Think of it as a test everyone has to pass. I know this would
>> take effort to create, but could that be worth it? Could this be a way to
>> get people involved? Or is this a crazy idea that should be dropped?
>>
>> Tammie Lister
>>
>>  On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me> wrote:
>>
>>>  That's a tough one, not really sure how we would scale :)
>>>
>>> Main reason, person would need to have an admin privileges, know what
>>> he/she is doing and to be trusted as well.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Tammie Lister <karmatosed at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> That rocks Emil, and I absolutely appreciate all the effort put in by
>>>> admins to help assign. This happened for us at WordCamp Manchester also, I
>>>> think we woke Chip up a long list of emails :) Your workloads as admins are
>>>> huge though, I'd love to find a way to make this easier on you and the new
>>>> reviewers.
>>>>
>>>> However, that doesn't solve the times when people are busy. Dealing
>>>> camp by camp isn't a great way for scalability. People rightly have lives
>>>> outside of theme reviews and I feel relying on anyone being around isn't
>>>> great or a good solid long term plan. It's unfair on anyone. I'd love to
>>>> see every contribution day (a girl can dream) have a group for Theme
>>>> Review. At that scale, it would be hard to have someone be there all the
>>>> time.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Tammie Lister
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 5:26 PM, Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  I will be in San Francisco for 5 days, including the Contribution
>>>>> Days. Tickets can be assigned on the spot if needed.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Srikanth Koneru <tskk79 at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  A theme that does everything wrong as a training tool, for new
>>>>>> reviewers to cut their teeth, they can practice on it and when ready can
>>>>>> start reviewing themes. I think that will greatly reduce admin effort in
>>>>>> auditing approved themes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 9:40 PM, Tammie Lister <karmatosed at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I wanted to take a little moment to start up a discussion on whether
>>>>>>> there is anything we can do to make contribution days run a little smoother
>>>>>>> for theme reviews.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Currently, we have a request post that people post to in order to
>>>>>>> get a review. Once assigned, they can do the review. This works well if
>>>>>>> time isn’t poor, often at contribution days we just want to strike while
>>>>>>> the iron is hot and get people contributing. Our current method also puts
>>>>>>> extra weight on admins, who already are doing a great amount of work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Having people post also poses issues when people may not have posted
>>>>>>> on the blog. They then have to wait to be approved as flagged as potential
>>>>>>> spam before they can even post. This is a double hurdle.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I absolutely understand why we need to have a process and why we
>>>>>>> can’t just let anyone review anything without easing them in. However, I do
>>>>>>> wonder what could be done to improve this process and encourage more people
>>>>>>> to contribute. We need reviewers and contribution days are a great place to
>>>>>>> recruit :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If one of us that can assign our own reviews, is at a contribution
>>>>>>> day we can assign to ourselves. But, that limits it again. Ideally nobody
>>>>>>> would need to be there that has any level.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don’t claim to have the answers, but I have a few possibilities:
>>>>>>> 1. Better documentation on how to do your first review. I think
>>>>>>> Chip, you were going to refresh your great post about that - time willing
>>>>>>> of course.
>>>>>>> 2. A ‘how to run a theme review section at contribution day’ section.
>>>>>>> 3. Maybe a pool of past themes we can give new reviewers to ‘cut
>>>>>>> their teeth’? This could also even be a test theme. Maybe to level the
>>>>>>> playing field one that covers the basics you should know. Possibly a cool
>>>>>>> sub project? A doing_it_wrong theme.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I’m sure I am missing some great ideas, hence interested what people
>>>>>>> think. I’d love to find ways we can make this process better and get more
>>>>>>> contributors as a result.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What do people think?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tammie Lister
>>>>>>>
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