[theme-reviewers] Is Blog.php is allowed in theme?

Sat Jul 5 17:08:43 UTC 2014

No, it won't, unless the Theme is doing something wonky to the query.

1. Create two static pages, A & B
2. Settings -> Reading -> Front page displays = A static page
3. Settings -> Reading -> Front page = A
4. Settings -> Reading -> Posts page = B

A will use front-page.php
B will use home.php

On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Philip M. Hofer (Frumph) <philip at frumph.net
> wrote:

>   Just tested to make sure as well.
>
> IF you use a home.php file AND set the settings –> reading,  posts page as
> one of your sub pages, it will STILL use both home.php on the index AND the
> posts page.  Again, not what is wanted.  So all of the ‘events’ that occur
> on the LANDING page are now duplicated on the page you set as the POSTS
> page.
>
> Again, not what is wanted; hence the use of the blog template is necessary.
>
> I have these three files:
>
> front-page.php
> home.php
> index.php
>
> It ALWAYS runs the home.php for both locations, also executing all events
> for is_home/front_page on both.
>
> front-page.php and index.php are not even looked at for either position.
>
>
>
>
>
>  *From:* Philip M. Hofer (Frumph) <philip at frumph.net>
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 05, 2014 9:46 AM
> *To:* Discussion list for WordPress theme reviewers.
> <theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [theme-reviewers] Is Blog.php is allowed in theme?
>
>   .. chip, stop.   Learn.   a theme doesn’t have to be made with anything
> but the index.php, a fallback doesn’t mean “don’t do it this way'” it means
> that it’s the last one it checks to display if the others don’t exist, most
> themes do *not* have the others.
>
>
>
>  *From:* Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net>
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 05, 2014 9:38 AM
> *To:* Discussion list for WordPress theme reviewers.
> <theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [theme-reviewers] Is Blog.php is allowed in theme?
>
>  "but say the theme’s index.php is made for the home page which have
> things inside of which only run ON the intro-splash first page you hit,"
>
> That is incorrect usage of index.php. The index.php template file is the
> default fallback for all contexts. It is NOT the site front page.
>
> Please read these two posts:
>
>
> http://www.chipbennett.net/2013/09/14/home-page-and-front-page-and-templates-oh-my/
> and
>
> http://make.wordpress.org/themes/2014/06/28/correct-handling-of-static-front-page-and-custom-blog-posts-index-template/
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Philip M. Hofer (Frumph) <
> philip at frumph.net> wrote:
>
>>   Why would you need a sub page of a site to identify itself as
>> is_home(), it is not the front_page or home?
>>
>> That’s the point, to put the blog posts onto a separate sub page hence
>> the template; and not have it initiate functions that run as home.
>>
>> Again, and I will make this point a little more clear.   When you run the
>> settings –> reading, ‘a static  page’ [ set the posts page ]  You are
>> running the WordPress’s template hierarchy, so the the first thing it’s
>> going to do is use the template structure of the theme;  for example, the
>> index.php / but say the theme’s index.php is made for the home page which
>> have things inside of which only run ON the intro-splash first page you
>> hit, .. PEOPLE DO NOT WANT THAT;  the case-use here is that they want to
>> move their blog posts to a sub page that is NOT a home page.
>>
>> These are people who do not just “go in and modify a theme”, these are
>> users.  They don’t create a home.php they don’t create a front-page.php
>> they use the theme and want to move their blog to a sub page from their
>> home.
>>
>> If “I” were to create a front-page.php or a home.php or otherwise when
>> people use the theme the template heirarchy uses those first when the
>> setting is not set; which defeats the purpose of having specific
>> functionality separated to begin with and then it cannot happen.
>>
>> And yeah, I still believe you won’t “get it”, and I have no more words to
>> say on the subject.   It’s clear, you probably just need to experiment some
>> more on how it works.  Or enlighten me otherwise.
>>
>>
>>  *From:* Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, July 05, 2014 7:40 AM
>>  *To:* Discussion list for WordPress theme reviewers.
>> <theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [theme-reviewers] Is Blog.php is allowed in theme?
>>
>>   I'm not sure I follow. Why would you need the blog posts index
>> query/context/template not be able to identify itself as such (is_home())?
>>
>> The *blog* is the blog posts index, which should be rendered using the
>> Home Template Hierarchy. When settings are configured properly (i.e. as
>> defined by core), then a blog.php (i.e. a custom page template to render
>> the blog posts index) is pointless. It will never get used, unless the
>> Theme instructs the user to use a configuration other than the one defined
>> by core. I really can't think of a valid use, ever, for blog.php.
>>
>> Post loops *other* than the blog posts index would use other templates.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 8:03 AM, Philip M. Hofer (Frumph) <
>> philip at frumph.net> wrote:
>>
>>>   This is missing information.   the only way for a posts loop that
>>> does not want to recognize itself as a home page from functions such as
>>> is_home or is_front_page is to use a custom blog.php file; the keyword in
>>> the article is “index template”  (unless someone can clarify)
>>>
>>> for example, say you have an index.php file that has a
>>> do_action(‘something’) in it and the function checks if is_front_page() go
>>> ahead and execute, you go to settings and set a page to the posts it will
>>> recognize that page as is_front_page;   so if you don’t want that (and
>>> there are reasons) then a blog.php is the only real solution
>>>
>>>  now, that’s just my understand on how I got things to work properly
>>> for my theme;  if someone has information on the template hierarchy
>>> substitute that would be peachy.
>>>
>>> (mind you that is WITHOUT changing the template for the home page just
>>> not having the blog loop there and moving it to it’s own subpage)
>>>
>>>
>>>  *From:* Joan Boluda <joan at boluda.com>
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, July 05, 2014 4:55 AM
>>> *To:* Discussion list for WordPress theme reviewers.
>>> <theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [theme-reviewers] Is Blog.php is allowed in theme?
>>>
>>>  You're welcome! :)
>>>
>>>
>>> *J**oan Boluda*
>>> *Consultor de Marketing Online*
>>> http://boluda.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Alex Lizar <lizarweb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Allot .It helped like a charm.
>>>>
>>>> Great Weekend you too :)
>>>>
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>>>>  On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 4:38 PM, Joan Boluda <joan at boluda.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Not recommended:
>>>>> https://make.wordpress.org/themes/2014/06/28/correct-handling-of-static-front-page-and-custom-blog-posts-index-template/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, July 5, 2014, Alex Lizar <lizarweb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you Sir,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can I use blog.php as a template here?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   *Best Regards*
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Joan Boluda <joan at boluda.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Alex!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Home page and Front page info ->
>>>>>>> http://www.chipbennett.net/2013/09/14/home-page-and-front-page-and-templates-oh-my/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Great weekend! :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *J**oan Boluda*
>>>>>>> *Consultor de Marketing Online*
>>>>>>> http://boluda.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 12:46 PM, Alex Lizar <lizarweb at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Hello all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have a confusion on blog.php ? What I want is to show my blog
>>>>>>>> posts on a specific page on menu.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And my sites home page populated using front-page.php ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have gone through the reading setting option ,But could not get
>>>>>>>> the solution .
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I need a solution or suggestions.
>>>>>>>>
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