[theme-reviewers] Bundled plugins

Fri Jan 24 19:37:05 UTC 2014

Gracias amable señor :)

On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 1:30 PM, chip <chip at chipbennett.net> wrote:

> With WordPress 3.9 quickly approaching, now is a good time to discuss
> changes. I'll put up a post on Make/Themes. :)
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me> wrote:
>
>> I have zero issues with that, but we should add few lines in our
>> guidelines :-)
>> On Jan 24, 2014 12:12 PM, "Chip Bennett" <chip at chipbennett.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Regardless of the Guidelines' stance on bundled Plugins, reviews should
>>> *always* be conducted without any recommended Plugins.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Josh Pollock <jpollock412 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1 to Chip on making this a formal part of the guidelines.
>>>>
>>>> I think the guidelines should specify if the review will be conducted
>>>> with and without any recommended plugins activated or just without.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Jose Castaneda <
>>>> jomcastaneda at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I, too, feel it can be a requirement that themes not bundle it.
>>>>>
>>>>> It not only takes up storage within the theme's folder but can, and,
>>>>> may differ from one in the repo. Who's to say they don't do a bait and
>>>>> switch.
>>>>>
>>>>> From what I recall from wptavern's post about the plugin repo they are
>>>>> able to approve a plugin fairly quickly. The biggest reason for not getting
>>>>> approved is because the developer doesn't respond/fix the issues.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 24, 2014, at 8:37 AM, Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ...which explains why bundled Plugins should not be allowed. Theme
>>>>> reviewers cannot reasonably be expected to review Plugin code.
>>>>>
>>>>> We've been discussing it for a while now. Unless there remains some
>>>>> reasonable opposition, I would like to formalize it, and require that
>>>>> Themes not bundle Plugins.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Christine Rondeau <
>>>>> christine at bluelimemedia.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, oh.. I wasn't aware of that. I reviewed the theme, didn't see
>>>>>> anything wrong and so marked it as approved. I didn't even think to review
>>>>>> the plugins, but I don't think that I could anyway. Plugins fall in a total
>>>>>> different category.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also work for cyberchimps. I do customer support for them and I
>>>>>> have a few themes in the repo under my name.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Christine Rondeau
>>>>>> Bluelime Media
>>>>>> www.bluelimemedia.com
>>>>>> twitter: @bluelimemedia
>>>>>> skype: bluelimemedia
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 3:31 AM, Srikanth Koneru <tskk79 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In recent discussion, its recommended not to bundle the plugin, if
>>>>>>> its bundled then it has to be reviewed too.
>>>>>>> you work for cyberchimps too?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please don't beat yourself up, we have so many questions and
>>>>>>>> discussions going on and it ain't easy to keep up with all of them :-)
>>>>>>>> On Jan 24, 2014 1:14 AM, "Christine Rondeau" <
>>>>>>>> christine at bluelimemedia.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ok good to know. I must have misread or thought I read about
>>>>>>>>> plugins not being allowed as part of the theme. I try to keep up with the
>>>>>>>>> list, but there's a bit too much sometimes . :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'll approve the theme then, since I think the rest is ok.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Christine Rondeau
>>>>>>>>> Bluelime Media
>>>>>>>>> www.bluelimemedia.com
>>>>>>>>> twitter: @bluelimemedia
>>>>>>>>> skype: bluelimemedia
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:10 PM, Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We don't have any special guidelines about plugin being part of
>>>>>>>>>> the Theme. It's recommended, but no it is not required. Many authors do :-)
>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 24, 2014 1:00 AM, "Christine Rondeau" <
>>>>>>>>>> christine at bluelimemedia.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Just want to double check again, but I seem to recall that
>>>>>>>>>>> plugins CANNOT be bundled with themes.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm reviewing a theme right now -
>>>>>>>>>>> https://themes.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/16203#comment:4
>>>>>>>>>>> and the theme works without the plugin and installing the
>>>>>>>>>>> plugins is optional, but if you choose to install these, they are
>>>>>>>>>>> downloaded directly from the theme.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm pretty sure that this is not allowed right?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Christine
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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