[theme-reviewers] Bundled plugins

[Emil Uzelac]

I have zero issues with that, but we should add few lines in our guidelines
:-)
On Jan 24, 2014 12:12 PM, "Chip Bennett" <chip at chipbennett.net> wrote:

> Regardless of the Guidelines' stance on bundled Plugins, reviews should
> *always* be conducted without any recommended Plugins.
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Josh Pollock <jpollock412 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> +1 to Chip on making this a formal part of the guidelines.
>>
>> I think the guidelines should specify if the review will be conducted
>> with and without any recommended plugins activated or just without.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Jose Castaneda <jomcastaneda at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> I, too, feel it can be a requirement that themes not bundle it.
>>>
>>> It not only takes up storage within the theme's folder but can, and, may
>>> differ from one in the repo. Who's to say they don't do a bait and switch.
>>>
>>> From what I recall from wptavern's post about the plugin repo they are
>>> able to approve a plugin fairly quickly. The biggest reason for not getting
>>> approved is because the developer doesn't respond/fix the issues.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jan 24, 2014, at 8:37 AM, Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> ...which explains why bundled Plugins should not be allowed. Theme
>>> reviewers cannot reasonably be expected to review Plugin code.
>>>
>>> We've been discussing it for a while now. Unless there remains some
>>> reasonable opposition, I would like to formalize it, and require that
>>> Themes not bundle Plugins.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Christine Rondeau <
>>> christine at bluelimemedia.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Oh, oh.. I wasn't aware of that. I reviewed the theme, didn't see
>>>> anything wrong and so marked it as approved. I didn't even think to review
>>>> the plugins, but I don't think that I could anyway. Plugins fall in a total
>>>> different category.
>>>>
>>>> I also work for cyberchimps. I do customer support for them and I have
>>>> a few themes in the repo under my name.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Christine Rondeau
>>>> Bluelime Media
>>>> www.bluelimemedia.com
>>>> twitter: @bluelimemedia
>>>> skype: bluelimemedia
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 3:31 AM, Srikanth Koneru <tskk79 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In recent discussion, its recommended not to bundle the plugin, if its
>>>>> bundled then it has to be reviewed too.
>>>>> you work for cyberchimps too?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Please don't beat yourself up, we have so many questions and
>>>>>> discussions going on and it ain't easy to keep up with all of them :-)
>>>>>> On Jan 24, 2014 1:14 AM, "Christine Rondeau" <
>>>>>> christine at bluelimemedia.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok good to know. I must have misread or thought I read about plugins
>>>>>>> not being allowed as part of the theme. I try to keep up with the list, but
>>>>>>> there's a bit too much sometimes . :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll approve the theme then, since I think the rest is ok.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Christine Rondeau
>>>>>>> Bluelime Media
>>>>>>> www.bluelimemedia.com
>>>>>>> twitter: @bluelimemedia
>>>>>>> skype: bluelimemedia
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:10 PM, Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We don't have any special guidelines about plugin being part of the
>>>>>>>> Theme. It's recommended, but no it is not required. Many authors do :-)
>>>>>>>> On Jan 24, 2014 1:00 AM, "Christine Rondeau" <
>>>>>>>> christine at bluelimemedia.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just want to double check again, but I seem to recall that plugins
>>>>>>>>> CANNOT be bundled with themes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm reviewing a theme right now -
>>>>>>>>> https://themes.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/16203#comment:4
>>>>>>>>> and the theme works without the plugin and installing the plugins
>>>>>>>>> is optional, but if you choose to install these, they are downloaded
>>>>>>>>> directly from the theme.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm pretty sure that this is not allowed right?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Christine
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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