[theme-reviewers] GPL and limiting usage

[Ünsal Korkmaz]

>
> > If no, then the theme shouldn't be allowed on .org until they change
> their
> > pricing model.
> The problem is that their theme no longer does this. Their pricing
> model for another add-on piece of code they are selling is irrelevant
> to the theme.


Now its not theme but plugin.. same model.. not gpl compatible. *right?*
*
*
*@Otto *how can you say that? What happen authors all released products,
themes/plugins, have to be GPL compatible? can we release non-gpl plugin?



On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 10:00 PM, Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me> wrote:

> The issue is no longer an issue. It was taken care by PageLines.
> Codes are removed and I believe that we mentioned this few times
> already. Currently Theme in question does not have any GPL issues.
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Trent Lapinski <trent at cyberchimps.com>wrote:
>
>> I've just been watching this so far, and I have to admit I'm getting
>> confused as well.
>>
>> Are subscription based themes and plugins that limit usage if the user
>> stops paying allowed on .org?
>>
>> If no, then the theme shouldn't be allowed on .org until they change
>> their pricing model.
>>
>> If yes, can someone please explain how this is GPL compatible?
>>
>> This answer will have a drastic effect on all upsell themes and pricing
>> models for theme shops. We need a clear yes or no answer with a defined
>> explanation.
>>
>> This isn't an us vs. them situation. This is simply a "is this allowed?"
>> and so far not a single admin or .org representative seems to have an
>> answer.
>>
>> Can we please get a clarification so we can put this issue to rest once
>> and for all?
>>
>> --Trent Lapinski
>> CEO of CyberChimps
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Sep 20, 2013, at 11:08 AM, Bryan Hadaway <bhadaway at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> *@Otto*
>>
>> Just because you disagree with me does not make the issues I'm raising a
>> rant and it's not fair for you to be dismissive in that manner. Also, I'm
>> not concerned that this discussion is being ignored. I wasn't even the one
>> who started this discussion so clearly others have the same concerns.
>> Furthermore, are you even reading my responses? They're very concise and
>> backed up with facts, links, quotes etc.
>>
>> The GPL is not just about code and never has been, that's only part of
>> it. I think it more importantly has to do with usage rights and
>> specifically to the point, our roles of protecting the users of this
>> community, hence additional WP policies and guidelines.
>>
>> No, I haven't reviewed the new ticket theme code nor will I nor should I,
>> as I don't need to, that's completely irrelevant. The only proof needed is
>> right here:
>>
>> http://www.pagelines.com/pricing/
>>
>> You already made your point that "Well, marketing language is one thing
>> and the fine print is another..." (paraphrasing of course) and I already
>> agreed that is a good point generally, but doesn't apply here as the theme
>> developer has already clarified that it's not a support limit, but a usage
>> one.
>>
>> I couldn't be more calm, clear and concise in my communications. Nothing
>> I've said has been frantic or hyperbole in the least.
>>
>> You say that I need to be more clear and backup what I'm saying, well if
>> you disagree with me, I invite you to do the same. If you disagree with me,
>> here's what you're saying:
>>
>> *1. Under the GPL, we're allowed to sell themes, but restrict how many
>> websites our customers are allowed to use those themes on.*
>>
>> *2. Under WP policy, if we submit plugins or themes, we're not required
>> to keep all our WordPress works GPL compatible.*
>>
>> Is that what you're saying? And if not, I'm completely failing to
>> understand what you mean. Instead of just disagreeing with me, do you have
>> a rebuttal?
>>
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