[theme-reviewers] GPL and limiting usage

[Emil Uzelac]

The issue is no longer an issue. It was taken care by PageLines.
Codes are removed and I believe that we mentioned this few times
already. Currently Theme in question does not have any GPL issues.


On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Trent Lapinski <trent at cyberchimps.com>wrote:

> I've just been watching this so far, and I have to admit I'm getting
> confused as well.
>
> Are subscription based themes and plugins that limit usage if the user
> stops paying allowed on .org?
>
> If no, then the theme shouldn't be allowed on .org until they change their
> pricing model.
>
> If yes, can someone please explain how this is GPL compatible?
>
> This answer will have a drastic effect on all upsell themes and pricing
> models for theme shops. We need a clear yes or no answer with a defined
> explanation.
>
> This isn't an us vs. them situation. This is simply a "is this allowed?"
> and so far not a single admin or .org representative seems to have an
> answer.
>
> Can we please get a clarification so we can put this issue to rest once
> and for all?
>
> --Trent Lapinski
> CEO of CyberChimps
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Sep 20, 2013, at 11:08 AM, Bryan Hadaway <bhadaway at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> *@Otto*
>
> Just because you disagree with me does not make the issues I'm raising a
> rant and it's not fair for you to be dismissive in that manner. Also, I'm
> not concerned that this discussion is being ignored. I wasn't even the one
> who started this discussion so clearly others have the same concerns.
> Furthermore, are you even reading my responses? They're very concise and
> backed up with facts, links, quotes etc.
>
> The GPL is not just about code and never has been, that's only part of it.
> I think it more importantly has to do with usage rights and specifically to
> the point, our roles of protecting the users of this community, hence
> additional WP policies and guidelines.
>
> No, I haven't reviewed the new ticket theme code nor will I nor should I,
> as I don't need to, that's completely irrelevant. The only proof needed is
> right here:
>
> http://www.pagelines.com/pricing/
>
> You already made your point that "Well, marketing language is one thing
> and the fine print is another..." (paraphrasing of course) and I already
> agreed that is a good point generally, but doesn't apply here as the theme
> developer has already clarified that it's not a support limit, but a usage
> one.
>
> I couldn't be more calm, clear and concise in my communications. Nothing
> I've said has been frantic or hyperbole in the least.
>
> You say that I need to be more clear and backup what I'm saying, well if
> you disagree with me, I invite you to do the same. If you disagree with me,
> here's what you're saying:
>
> *1. Under the GPL, we're allowed to sell themes, but restrict how many
> websites our customers are allowed to use those themes on.*
>
> *2. Under WP policy, if we submit plugins or themes, we're not required
> to keep all our WordPress works GPL compatible.*
>
> Is that what you're saying? And if not, I'm completely failing to
> understand what you mean. Instead of just disagreeing with me, do you have
> a rebuttal?
>
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