[theme-reviewers] GPL and limiting usage

[Srikanth Koneru]

I am not all that sure now, Chip seems to have valid point( as usual )
about usage rights.


On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 6:57 AM, Josh Pollock <jpollock412 at gmail.com> wrote:

> @Trent- Whether or not it's your company's decision to not let this issue
> die, it is you and Bryan that are not letting it die. End result-  *to me*
> it feels like a CyberChimps effort to get Pagelines out of the theme repo.
>
> I dislike Otto's point about this being an issue of tricky language, not a
> violation of the GPL, but I think he's right. I think that sort of thing is
> a bad business practice and I wouldn't buy from them and I wouldn't do
> something similar in my own business. But again, that's separate from
> whether or not my freedom to modify and redistribute their product is
> infringed.
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 9:19 PM, Trent Lapinski <trent at cyberchimps.com>wrote:
>
>> "@Bryan- Maybe I missed it somewhere in the last few hundred emails, but
>> are there any non-CyberChimps employees on this list who agree with you and
>> @Trent?"
>>
>> Absolutely, many of which have replied to this thread, and the original
>> thread. In fact, we didn't even start this debate someone else did.
>>
>> The only reason I personally got involved is because this was brought to
>> me by people outside of CyberChimps who consulted with me and voiced their
>> concerns to me personally because they knew I was well versed in this area.
>>
>> I've also personally received many e-mails, tweets, and other private
>> communications from various people within the community who share these
>> concerns but are afraid to voice them publicly because they don't want to
>> argue with Otto, or Nacin. I can't blame them, I don't really want to argue
>> with anyone either, this is not a productive use of my time at all.
>>
>> However,  I believe in the GPL, WordPress, and open source software
>> philosophies and will defend them for the greater good of the community
>> even if it means I have to argue with Otto who is someone I have the utmost
>> respect for. I've learned a lot from Otto over the years, and continue to
>> do so, and he's an amazing resource for this community. We potentially
>> disagree on this one issue, but ultimately his ideals and mine are nearly
>> identical.
>>
>> For me, this is a user rights issue, and I will always side with users
>> who are not well versed on the inner-workings of how theme shops conduct
>> business. When I see something like this I speak up for all of those who
>> can't, thats just who I am, and I'm not going to apologize for it.
>>
>> As for Bryan, does he work for me? Absolutely, I'm not hiding that, but
>> his opinions are his own and he's free to voice them, in fact I encourage
>> it. This is a tough business to be in, and it's even harder when you play
>> by the rules like we do, but we believe it is worth it which is why we've
>> taken on this issue.
>>
>>    --Trent Lapinski
>> =============
>> CEO of CyberChimps Inc
>>
>> On Oct 9, 2013, at 5:44 PM, Josh Pollock <jpollock412 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> @Bryan- Maybe I missed it somewhere in the last few hundred emails, but
>> are there any non-CyberChimps employees on this list who agree with you and
>> @Trent?
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 8:40 PM, Bryan Hadaway <bhadaway at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> *@Josh*
>>>
>>>
>>> "I think CyberChimp's arguments could apply to Akismet."
>>>
>>> This has nothing to do with CyberChimps, this is a list discussion that
>>> wasn't even started by us.
>>>
>>> It was started by Ünsal Korkmaz who I don't know and who has no
>>> affiliation with CyberChimps.
>>>
>>> This isn't a CyberChimps vs PageLines issue, it's not even a PageLines
>>> issue.
>>>
>>> It's an issue about the GPL and WP policy, DMS is just an example that
>>> was part of the cause for this new precedent that clearly required
>>> discussion. There are a lot of people that see issues here, independently
>>> on their own that required no input from us.
>>>
>>> Please just look at the facts. I'm not a lawyer, I'm not an official in
>>> these matters, that's why I contacted the GNU directly with my questions in
>>> order to have a better understanding. You're all free to contact the GNU
>>> about this issue too. Please do your research and actually read through the
>>> entire discussion if you want to have a better understanding.
>>>
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