[theme-reviewers] Clarification on non-GPL themes on Author/ThemeURI

Tue May 28 07:03:54 UTC 2013

Their latest response was to say "shelob9 get me your skype or messenger
pls" and then immediately edit that comment to say "ok thanks" (
http://themes.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/12368?cversion=1&cnum_hist=17#comment:17
)

Can an admin please respond to this ticket? Either this
person legitimately doesn't understand me, or they are trying to get me to
change our policies, which I neither created nor disagree with for them. If
its the first option, which it could as their English is not great, I don't
know how to explain this any clearer. If its the second option I'm really
done with dealing with them.

On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 2:41 AM, Josh Pollock <jpollock412 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Here is a pastebin of the license terms: http://pastebin.com/SfqNauB8.
>
> @Emil- I closed all of this developer's themes 2 weeks ago, per Chip's
> instructions. They submitted a new round of tickets and their themes are
> still listed. I've been getting daily comments on tickets (mainly this one)
> from them for the last three days trying to explain that the themes in the
> repository are gpl2 licensed and the new tickets have a link to
> a different subpage of the same site. I've been trying to explain that all
> fo their themes must have a gpl-compatible license and if they disagree
> they should join this list and make a case for a new policy. It's getting
> rather old.
>
>
> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 10:28 PM, Daniel <danielx386 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Lucky for me it get blocked by our AV system and even if it did do
>> something, it just a restart away thanks to deepfreeze  :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me> wrote:
>> > Don't approve (if this is included link) and don't click ;)
>> >
>> > Emil
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 9:19 PM, Abhik Biswas <abhik at itsabhik.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Still no joy.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 6:15 AM, Daniel <danielx386 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I got a feeling that they may be redirecting base on IP address or
>> >>> something, still doing it for me.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 6:28 AM, Josh Pollock <jpollock412 at gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> > Try from this link:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > http://mythem.es/regular-license/
>> >>> >
>> >>> > This is the linked on the pages of their site for the up-sell
>> themes.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 1:01 AM, Abhik Biswas <abhik at itsabhik.com>
>> >>> > wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> I am being redirected too.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 7:18 AM, Josh Pollock <
>> jpollock412 at gmail.com>
>> >>> >> wrote:
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> Here's the ticket http://themes.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/12368 .
>> >>> >>> They
>> >>> >>> left the links in the last comment work.
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Daniel <danielx386 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>> It's also taking me to wop.ro as well. Adding to that, the site
>> is
>> >>> >>>> being blocked here as well.
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Srikanth Koneru <
>> tskk79 at gmail.com>
>> >>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>> >>>> > weird, i am getting wop.ro even after using a proxy.
>> >>> >>>> >
>> >>> >>>> >
>> >>> >>>> > On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 6:04 AM, Josh Pollock
>> >>> >>>> > <jpollock412 at gmail.com>
>> >>> >>>> > wrote:
>> >>> >>>> >>
>> >>> >>>> >> Works for me at: http://mythem.es/regular-license
>> >>> >>>> >>
>> >>> >>>> >>
>> >>> >>>> >> On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Srikanth Koneru
>> >>> >>>> >> <tskk79 at gmail.com>
>> >>> >>>> >> wrote:
>> >>> >>>> >>>
>> >>> >>>> >>> i am being redirected to wop.ro when i click the link, does
>> that
>> >>> >>>> >>> happen
>> >>> >>>> >>> to you too?
>> >>> >>>> >>>
>> >>> >>>> >>>
>> >>> >>>> >>> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:20 AM, Josh Pollock
>> >>> >>>> >>> <jpollock412 at gmail.com>
>> >>> >>>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> >>>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>> >>>> I got an in-ticket response to this issue today. Their
>> up-sell
>> >>> >>>> >>>> themes,
>> >>> >>>> >>>> which have free versions currently in the theme directory,
>> >>> >>>> >>>> carry
>> >>> >>>> >>>> this very
>> >>> >>>> >>>> not gpl-compatible license:
>> http://mythem.es/regular-license
>> >>> >>>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 9:04 PM, Josh Pollock
>> >>> >>>> >>>> <jpollock412 at gmail.com>
>> >>> >>>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>
>> >>> >>>> >>>>> Done.
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>
>> >>> >>>> >>>>> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Chip Bennett
>> >>> >>>> >>>>> <chip at chipbennett.net>
>> >>> >>>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>> Add a comment to the ticket, and change the resolution to
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>> "not-approved".
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>> I'll take care of the Themes already in Extend.
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Josh Pollock
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>> <jpollock412 at gmail.com>
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>> I closed all of their themes in the queue. What about
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>> approved
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>> themes?
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>> For instance this one:
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>> http://themes.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/7877
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>> It was just approved yesterday so it is probably not live
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>> yet.
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>> They have 9 themes in the repository, all of which I just
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>> rejected an
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>> update to, except the one who's ticket I mentioned above.
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>> This
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>> is there
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>> profile:
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>> http://profiles.wordpress.org/mythemes/
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 7:10 PM, Chip Bennett
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>> <chip at chipbennett.net>
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>> Feel free to close them all. Just reference/link the
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>> comment in
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>> the
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>> first ticket, so any potential subsequent reviewers can
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>> follow
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>> the issue.
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Josh Pollock
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>> <jpollock412 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> I never got a response to my query about whether or not
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> this
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> person's up-sell themes are GPL compatible. They have
>> 10
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> or so
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> other themes
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> in the queue. Should anything be done about this?
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Josh Pollock
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> <jpollock412 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> OK. I will ask the developer via a in ticket comment
>> to
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> clarify
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> and see what happens. If it appears to be an issue I
>> will
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> report back.
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 5:46 PM, Chip Bennett
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> <chip at chipbennett.net> wrote:
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It does change things, but only technically. In
>> order to
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> have a
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Theme hosted in the directory, a developer must
>> release
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *all* Themes under a
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> GPL-compatible license. Therefore, all commercial
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Themes,
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> whether an up-sell
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> version of the directory-hosted Theme, or a separate
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Theme
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> entirely, must be
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> GPL-compatible. Thus, the developer must still list
>> the
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> license for all
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Themes, free and/or commercial.
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Josh Pollock
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <jpollock412 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> To clarify, the theme I am reviewing only has a
>> free,
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> GPL2
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> licensed, version. The up-sell theme I linked to, I
>> got
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> to
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> by following a
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> link int he menu of the developers theme. I do not
>> know
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> if
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> that changes
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> things as far as this theme goes.
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I just checked and the theme I just linked to is in
>> the
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> queue.
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://themes.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/12076
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Edward Caissie
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> <edward.caissie at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I would read that as more the "paid" version is
>> more
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> robust or
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> not "a simplified" version, but it still does not
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> explicitly address the
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> potential for the "paid" version to be licensed in
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> some
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> other manner than
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> GPL-compatible (there was no obvious disclosure
>> that I
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> could find).
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ask the author for clarification and take them at
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> their
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> word
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ... the paid versions should also be GPL-compatible
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> and if
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> they are not then
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the "free" version should be addressed
>> appropriately.
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Edward Caissie
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> aka Cais.
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 5:21 PM, Josh Pollock
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <jpollock412 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> A theme I am reviewing has several themes for
>> sale on
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> page
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> linked via author/theme URI, as well as the credit
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> links
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the footer and
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> theme options, that seem to not be GPL licensed.
>> For
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> example:
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://mythem.es/my-way
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The full version fo the theme is for sale on this
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> page
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> their is a link to a free version of this theme.
>> The
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> free
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> version link is
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> prefaced with this text "You can download free
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> version of
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this item with GPL
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 license. This package is a simplified version."
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> implies that the paid
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> version is not GPL, but I can't be sure. If they
>> are
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> selling nonGPL themes
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on this page is that an issue, and if so how
>> should I
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> confirm they really
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> are non GPL?
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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