[theme-reviewers] Clarification on non-GPL themes on Author/ThemeURI

Josh Pollock jpollock412 at gmail.com
Tue May 28 06:41:49 UTC 2013


Here is a pastebin of the license terms: http://pastebin.com/SfqNauB8.

@Emil- I closed all of this developer's themes 2 weeks ago, per Chip's
instructions. They submitted a new round of tickets and their themes are
still listed. I've been getting daily comments on tickets (mainly this one)
from them for the last three days trying to explain that the themes in the
repository are gpl2 licensed and the new tickets have a link to
a different subpage of the same site. I've been trying to explain that all
fo their themes must have a gpl-compatible license and if they disagree
they should join this list and make a case for a new policy. It's getting
rather old.


On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 10:28 PM, Daniel <danielx386 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Lucky for me it get blocked by our AV system and even if it did do
> something, it just a restart away thanks to deepfreeze  :)
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me> wrote:
> > Don't approve (if this is included link) and don't click ;)
> >
> > Emil
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 9:19 PM, Abhik Biswas <abhik at itsabhik.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Still no joy.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 6:15 AM, Daniel <danielx386 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I got a feeling that they may be redirecting base on IP address or
> >>> something, still doing it for me.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 6:28 AM, Josh Pollock <jpollock412 at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > Try from this link:
> >>> >
> >>> > http://mythem.es/regular-license/
> >>> >
> >>> > This is the linked on the pages of their site for the up-sell themes.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 1:01 AM, Abhik Biswas <abhik at itsabhik.com>
> >>> > wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I am being redirected too.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 7:18 AM, Josh Pollock <
> jpollock412 at gmail.com>
> >>> >> wrote:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Here's the ticket http://themes.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/12368 .
> >>> >>> They
> >>> >>> left the links in the last comment work.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Daniel <danielx386 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> It's also taking me to wop.ro as well. Adding to that, the site
> is
> >>> >>>> being blocked here as well.
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Srikanth Koneru <
> tskk79 at gmail.com>
> >>> >>>> wrote:
> >>> >>>> > weird, i am getting wop.ro even after using a proxy.
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> > On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 6:04 AM, Josh Pollock
> >>> >>>> > <jpollock412 at gmail.com>
> >>> >>>> > wrote:
> >>> >>>> >>
> >>> >>>> >> Works for me at: http://mythem.es/regular-license
> >>> >>>> >>
> >>> >>>> >>
> >>> >>>> >> On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Srikanth Koneru
> >>> >>>> >> <tskk79 at gmail.com>
> >>> >>>> >> wrote:
> >>> >>>> >>>
> >>> >>>> >>> i am being redirected to wop.ro when i click the link, does
> that
> >>> >>>> >>> happen
> >>> >>>> >>> to you too?
> >>> >>>> >>>
> >>> >>>> >>>
> >>> >>>> >>> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:20 AM, Josh Pollock
> >>> >>>> >>> <jpollock412 at gmail.com>
> >>> >>>> >>> wrote:
> >>> >>>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> >>>> I got an in-ticket response to this issue today. Their
> up-sell
> >>> >>>> >>>> themes,
> >>> >>>> >>>> which have free versions currently in the theme directory,
> >>> >>>> >>>> carry
> >>> >>>> >>>> this very
> >>> >>>> >>>> not gpl-compatible license: http://mythem.es/regular-license
> >>> >>>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 9:04 PM, Josh Pollock
> >>> >>>> >>>> <jpollock412 at gmail.com>
> >>> >>>> >>>> wrote:
> >>> >>>> >>>>>
> >>> >>>> >>>>> Done.
> >>> >>>> >>>>>
> >>> >>>> >>>>>
> >>> >>>> >>>>> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Chip Bennett
> >>> >>>> >>>>> <chip at chipbennett.net>
> >>> >>>> >>>>> wrote:
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>
> >>> >>>> >>>>>> Add a comment to the ticket, and change the resolution to
> >>> >>>> >>>>>> "not-approved".
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>
> >>> >>>> >>>>>> I'll take care of the Themes already in Extend.
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>
> >>> >>>> >>>>>> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Josh Pollock
> >>> >>>> >>>>>> <jpollock412 at gmail.com>
> >>> >>>> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>> I closed all of their themes in the queue. What about
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>> approved
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>> themes?
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>> For instance this one:
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>> http://themes.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/7877
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>> It was just approved yesterday so it is probably not live
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>> yet.
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>> They have 9 themes in the repository, all of which I just
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>> rejected an
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>> update to, except the one who's ticket I mentioned above.
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>> This
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>> is there
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>> profile:
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>> http://profiles.wordpress.org/mythemes/
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 7:10 PM, Chip Bennett
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>> <chip at chipbennett.net>
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>> Feel free to close them all. Just reference/link the
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>> comment in
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>> the
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>> first ticket, so any potential subsequent reviewers can
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>> follow
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>> the issue.
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Josh Pollock
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>> <jpollock412 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> I never got a response to my query about whether or not
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> this
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> person's up-sell themes are GPL compatible. They have 10
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> or so
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> other themes
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> in the queue. Should anything be done about this?
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Josh Pollock
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> <jpollock412 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> OK. I will ask the developer via a in ticket comment to
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> clarify
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> and see what happens. If it appears to be an issue I
> will
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> report back.
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 5:46 PM, Chip Bennett
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> <chip at chipbennett.net> wrote:
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It does change things, but only technically. In order
> to
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> have a
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Theme hosted in the directory, a developer must
> release
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *all* Themes under a
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> GPL-compatible license. Therefore, all commercial
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Themes,
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> whether an up-sell
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> version of the directory-hosted Theme, or a separate
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Theme
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> entirely, must be
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> GPL-compatible. Thus, the developer must still list
> the
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> license for all
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Themes, free and/or commercial.
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Josh Pollock
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <jpollock412 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> To clarify, the theme I am reviewing only has a free,
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> GPL2
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> licensed, version. The up-sell theme I linked to, I
> got
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> by following a
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> link int he menu of the developers theme. I do not
> know
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> if
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> that changes
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> things as far as this theme goes.
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I just checked and the theme I just linked to is in
> the
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> queue.
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://themes.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/12076
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Edward Caissie
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> <edward.caissie at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I would read that as more the "paid" version is more
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> robust or
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> not "a simplified" version, but it still does not
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> explicitly address the
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> potential for the "paid" version to be licensed in
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> some
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> other manner than
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> GPL-compatible (there was no obvious disclosure
> that I
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> could find).
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ask the author for clarification and take them at
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> their
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> word
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ... the paid versions should also be GPL-compatible
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> and if
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> they are not then
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the "free" version should be addressed
> appropriately.
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Edward Caissie
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> aka Cais.
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 5:21 PM, Josh Pollock
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <jpollock412 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> A theme I am reviewing has several themes for sale
> on
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> page
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> linked via author/theme URI, as well as the credit
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> links
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the footer and
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> theme options, that seem to not be GPL licensed.
> For
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> example:
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://mythem.es/my-way
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The full version fo the theme is for sale on this
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> page
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> their is a link to a free version of this theme.
> The
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> free
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> version link is
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> prefaced with this text "You can download free
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> version of
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this item with GPL
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 license. This package is a simplified version."
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> implies that the paid
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> version is not GPL, but I can't be sure. If they
> are
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> selling nonGPL themes
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on this page is that an issue, and if so how
> should I
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> confirm they really
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> are non GPL?
> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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