[theme-reviewers] Tinymce button that only adds css codes.. still plugin territory?

[Chip Bennett]

Let's back up a bit: why would <span class="foo bar"></span> be added to
post content to begin with? What is the semantic meaning of such a
container?


On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Daniel Tara <contact at onedesigns.com> wrote:

> Speaking a bit more generally I believe there always be this conflict
> between content generation and content presentation. Content generation is
> plugin territory but if plugins also add their own styling what are the
> chances that styling fits a random theme. I say not styled content is
> better than ugly styled content. I think we should allow more middle ground
> here.
>
> Daniel
>
> On Mar 3, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Ünsal Korkmaz wrote:
>
> Thank you for review but i mean tinymce does not adding shortcode, it adds
> css code.
> http://themes.svn.wordpress.org/firmasite/1.1.0/functions/shortcodes.php
> Those shortcodes are wordpress's default shortcodes. audio, gallery, video.
>
> On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net> wrote:
>
>> Hmm, actually, there *are* shortcodes:
>> http://themes.svn.wordpress.org/firmasite/1.1.0/functions/shortcodes.php
>>
>> And this is definitely Plugin territory:
>>
>> http://themes.svn.wordpress.org/firmasite/1.1.0/functions/remove-comments-absolute.php
>>
>> And a good deal of this is Plugin territory:
>> http://themes.svn.wordpress.org/firmasite/1.1.0/functions/fix.php
>>
>> And this is also probably Plugin territory (though a bit of a gray area):
>>
>> http://themes.svn.wordpress.org/firmasite/1.1.0/functions/custom-sharing-buttons.php
>>
>> http://themes.svn.wordpress.org/firmasite/1.1.0/functions/custom-facebook-comments.php
>>
>> But, for the TinyMCE buttons: my initial reaction would be to say that
>> they also are probably Plugin territory. What do the buttons do? What do
>> they add to the post content? Wrap selected content in <span class="foo
>> bar"></span> tags? Sure, that degrades more gracefully than un-parsed
>> shortcodes, but it would still result in a bunch of unused markup scattered
>> throughout the user's posts after switching Themes. *Thus, I would say
>> that the TinyMCE buttons are also Plugin territory*. I would recommend
>> defining the *styles* for the CSS classes added via the TinyMCE buttons,
>> but make the underlying TinyMCE button functionality itself a Plugin.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Chip
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 8:00 AM, Ünsal Korkmaz <unsalkorkmaz at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> My theme:
>>> http://themes.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/11437
>>> Theme is adding custom tinymce button that adds css code for design
>>> elements. There is no shortcode or something.. just css code.
>>> Its allowed in themes right?
>>>
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