[theme-reviewers] Windows 8/RT + IE10 Drop Down Menu Solution?

Emil Uzelac emil at uzelac.me
Mon Jul 22 23:45:00 UTC 2013


@Bruce, yes that's exactly what the link above will tell us:

*Using aria-haspopup<http://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria/states_and_properties#aria-haspopup>to
simulate hover on touch-enabled devices (Microsoft)
*

@Daniel that would be negative.

Emil


On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 6:38 PM, Daniel <danielx386 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Does this same issue crop up in firefox on a touch screen computer? It
> can't just be RT devices right? Anything that got a touchscreen will
> have the same issue right?
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me> wrote:
> > wrong link:
> >
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windowsphone/develop/ff402563(v=vs.105).aspx
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me> wrote:
> >>
> >> Try http://dev.windowsphone.com/en-us/downloadsdk
> >> just like everything else Microsoft does not make things
> >> easier for us and always requires special treatments.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 6:23 PM, Bruce Wampler <weavertheme at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Sorry, I could have been a bit more explicit.
> >>>
> >>> 1. This problem applies explicitly to Windows 8 devices using IE10.
> Even
> >>> more explicitly, to Windows 8/RT tablets and Windows 8 Phones in full
> screen
> >>> display (probably drop-down list based mobile menus will work in
> responsive
> >>> mode). Mostly what happens is the user can't tap on the top level menu
> and
> >>> get the drop-down sub-menu to open properly. It is an issue with the
> way
> >>> :hover is handled. Webkit and other mobile/touch browsers fake things
> out by
> >>> making touches  behave like mouse gestures, but IE 10 insists on using
> the
> >>> 'aria' standard.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2. I don't know, but I suspect even Twenty Thirteen will break on Win
> >>> RT/IE 10 tablets.  Microsoft has a touch simulator which will simulate
> touch
> >>> gestures on a desktop, but it apparently is not quite 100%. Twenty
> Thirteen
> >>> does work on the Win8 simulator, but then, so does my theme. But my
> users
> >>> with real devices say that it does not on a physical tablet with Win
> RT. CSS
> >>> drop-down menus apparently will work mostly in the simulator, as they
> might
> >>> on hybrid touch screen Win8 based laptops. But this problem is
> exclusively
> >>> Win 8/RT with IE10, and new, but slowly growing combination - probably
> less
> >>> than 2% right now.
> >>>
> >>> 3. So this is apparently restricted to Windows 8 Phones and Windows RT
> >>> tablets and IE 10. Apparently, Microsoft is not allowing
> implementations of
> >>> Firefox, Chrome, or other browsers on Win8 phones, so if Win8 phones
> ever
> >>> get any sizable market, this problem will grow. And currently, many
> major
> >>> sites such as WalMart.com and others fail on these devices. So, there
> is
> >>> some speculation that Microsoft will eventually retreat from their
> stand,
> >>> and add the same kind of touch/mouse simulation code found in Webkit
> and
> >>> others.
> >>>
> >>> - Bruce Wampler
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Otto <otto at ottodestruct.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Can you be more specific about what the exact problem is? Does it
> >>>> happen in Twenty Thirteen's menus?
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't have Win8, and so can't test, but I've seen no issues with
> IE10
> >>>> on Win7.
> >>>>
> >>>> -Otto
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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