[theme-reviewers] Windows 8/RT + IE10 Drop Down Menu Solution?

Bruce Wampler weavertheme at gmail.com
Mon Jul 22 23:23:54 UTC 2013

Sorry, I could have been a bit more explicit.

1. This problem applies explicitly to Windows 8 devices using IE10. Even
more explicitly, to Windows 8/RT tablets and Windows 8 Phones in full
screen display (probably drop-down list based mobile menus will work in
responsive mode). Mostly what happens is the user can't tap on the top
level menu and get the drop-down sub-menu to open properly. It is an issue
with the way :hover is handled. Webkit and other mobile/touch browsers fake
things out by making touches  behave like mouse gestures, but IE 10 insists
on using the 'aria' standard.

2. I don't know, but I suspect even Twenty Thirteen will break on Win RT/IE
10 tablets.  Microsoft has a touch simulator which will simulate touch
gestures on a desktop, but it apparently is not quite 100%. Twenty Thirteen
does work on the Win8 simulator, but then, so does my theme. But my users
with real devices say that it does not on a physical tablet with Win RT.
CSS drop-down menus apparently will work mostly in the simulator, as they
might on hybrid touch screen Win8 based laptops. But this problem is
exclusively Win 8/RT with IE10, and new, but slowly growing combination -
probably less than 2% right now.

3. So this is apparently restricted to Windows 8 Phones and Windows RT
tablets and IE 10. Apparently, Microsoft is not allowing implementations of
Firefox, Chrome, or other browsers on Win8 phones, so if Win8 phones ever
get any sizable market, this problem will grow. And currently, many major
sites such as WalMart.com and others fail on these devices. So, there is
some speculation that Microsoft will eventually retreat from their stand,
and add the same kind of touch/mouse simulation code found in Webkit and

- Bruce Wampler

On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Otto <otto at ottodestruct.com> wrote:

> Can you be more specific about what the exact problem is? Does it
> happen in Twenty Thirteen's menus?
> I don't have Win8, and so can't test, but I've seen no issues with IE10 on
> Win7.
> -Otto
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