[theme-reviewers] Webmaster Tools IDs - plugin territory?

Tue Jul 16 16:03:22 UTC 2013

I felt mocking Dane's web presence was an attack. Lets keep things a little
more light hearted. Maybe even fun.

My 2c is that all themes should essentially be reskinned Underscores.me,
with all functional innovation happening in plugins. I don't expect anyone
to agree with this, but it's the direction I'm taking with my little theme
business.

Keep in mind that my only credential is that I make WordPress themes. My
mom thinks they look great though.

On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Philip M. Hofer (Frumph) <philip at frumph.net
> wrote:

>   There was no attack there.   He provided his credentials saying it was
> his job first.
>
>
>  *From:* Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 16, 2013 8:37 AM
> *To:* Discussion list for WordPress theme reviewers.<theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [theme-reviewers] Webmaster Tools IDs - plugin territory?
>
>  Argue the guidelines all you want, but personal attacks against Theme
> Review Team volunteers and other contributors to this list is not
> acceptable and will not be tolerated. Impressiveness of personal
> credentials is not a criterion for contributing to the Theme Review Team.
> Respect, however, is.
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Philip M. Hofer (Frumph) <
> philip at frumph.net> wrote:
>
>>   Congratulations on earning a living in this.   There are upwards of
>> the several millions of WordPress users in the world and there are a
>> handful of posts on the forums, less then that.   This is not an issue that
>> necessitates a requirement.
>>
>> Having the core team make the ‘discussion’ tab in the screen options on
>> by default would alleviate most emails I get;  must get at least 20 a week
>> from that – when it first was changed I got hundreds.
>>
>> I assume this is you dane?  http://danemorganmedia.com/  nice site.  Or
>> maybe your blogspot site that was updated last in 2010?    Or is it Rebel
>> where you get your jobs from?   .. a company that offers SEO, fun – at
>> least it’s not spamming it.
>>
>> http://profiles.wordpress.org/dane-morgan/  This you as well?  you
>> answered or commented on 11 posts and nothing recent; help me out here –
>> what do you know of the forum and the questions asked there?
>>
>> Me?  I get asked to conventions to speak.   I have more then a dozen
>> celebrity sites which includes a comic for Shaq  http://hoopfighter.com/amongst them.   Tens of thousands of sites use my themes.     I have a B/S
>> business, MS in I/O Psychology from SDSU (was business organizational back
>> then) – I have worked for fortune 50 companies streamlining their services
>> and allowing them to provide more for their products with less overhead;
>> Until I got cancer and had half of my lung removed.   Now I work with
>> WordPress.
>>
>> http://www.talltaleradio.com/   Posted today a podcast that I was asked
>> to be on.
>> http://www.webcastbeacon.com/webcomic-235-interview-with-philip-hofer-aka-frumph-of-comicpress/past one.
>>
>> Give me a break.   There is no good reason to make it a requirement for
>> previous themes that have anything of a feature that are being said that
>> should currently not be allowed.    There isn’t an ‘epidemic’ or a
>> continuous problem.   It’s all made up to make it sound like it’s worse
>> then it is.
>>
>> Emil wrote some good points, make it a recommendation for previous repo
>> themes and required for new.   This is not a problem; most everyone is
>> going to remove it including myself within due time – but to make it a
>> strict requirement for all is based on falsehoods and egoist attitudes and
>> I foresee the problems will be a hundred fold for end users who then ask
>> why isn’t google updating?  when they used to the analytics code it in
>> their theme.   So ya know?  end users yeah, them, why don’t you show how
>> you give a care about them ya.  You say you do but you don’t.
>>
>>
>>
>>  *From:* Dane Morgan <dane at danemorganmedia.com>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 16, 2013 7:54 AM
>>  *To:* theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [theme-reviewers] Webmaster Tools IDs - plugin territory?
>>
>>   On 2013-07-16 09:34, Philip M. Hofer (Frumph) wrote:
>>
>>  Also I just checked the forums again, in the last 6 years there were
>> less then a handful total and none of them were due to shortcodes or plugin
>> content that one theme had that another didn’t, although there was one was
>> a custom post type issue but was easily explained and the end user got it
>> working almost immediately.  If you know of any specific ones, please speak
>> up.
>>
>>
>>
>> Really?
>>
>> People do not hire me saying I uninstalled NotsoAwesome Theme last week
>> and installed PrettyNeat NewTheme and my [coolbutton color=red link=
>> http://amazon.com/myaffiliatelink] shortcode quit working.
>>
>> They say, all my links disappeared.
>>
>> They don't say "I think the Google analytics shortcode stopped working
>> when i changed from my old theme to my new theme last week."
>>
>> they say "Why did WordPress stop sending data to Google Analytics last
>> month."
>>
>> You are asking the wrong questions because that is the only way to get
>> the answer you want.
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