[theme-reviewers] Webmaster Tools IDs - plugin territory?

Mon Jul 15 00:51:05 UTC 2013

no, its opposite. :)
Chip = No
Emil = Yes

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 6:18 AM, Jason Clarke <jgc at jasonclarke.org> wrote:

> Chip - just to clarify - are you saying that Analytics snippets,
> verification codes, and other items that don't impact the front-end are
> okay to keep in theme options?
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 8:41 PM, Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net>wrote:
>
>> I don't think a discussion is a waste of anyone's time.
>>
>> I can understand why some would argue where the
>> presentation-functionality line is appropriate for post-content shortcodes,
>> or favicons, or other things that actually get rendered on the site front
>> end. I really don't understand why there would be much of a debate about
>> where the content-presentation line is appropriate for things that have
>> absolutely no front-end impact - such as site analytics or webmaster tools.
>>
>> That's why discussion is a good thing. :)
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Jason Clarke <jgc at jasonclarke.org>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Emil,
>>>
>>> I apologize if you feel I'm wasting the group's time. My main concern is
>>> that as a new theme reviewer, I'm reading what appears to be directly
>>> conflicting answers between yourself and Chip as two admins, and I'm really
>>> trying to simply sort that out and move on with the theme.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Jason
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We're wasting time.
>>>>
>>>> If this does not break the Theme, interferes with the core, it is and
>>>> should be fine.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 7:26 PM, Srikanth Koneru <tskk79 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Agree with Chip, use a plugin, set them once and forget about them,
>>>>> Switch as many themes as they wish and no adverse effects for them
>>>>> especially since they are very important tools.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 5:51 AM, Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> A Plugin developer not updating a Plugin is not analogous to a user
>>>>>> switching Themes. Plugin developers may or may not update their Plugins any
>>>>>> more or less often than Theme developers update their Themes. But end users
>>>>>> can, do, and will switch Themes - often frequently.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Site analytics, authentication/verification, etc. don't have anything
>>>>>> to do with presentation of user content, but are quite important for end
>>>>>> users who choose to use those tools.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Theme author's should be allowed to add this in Theme Options
>>>>>>> and like Chip says if there's no impact to the Theme in any way
>>>>>>> it's fine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now, as far as what happens when user switches the Theme
>>>>>>> is completely up to user, their responsibility.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What happens when plugin author does not update the plugin,
>>>>>>> it may break right? same thing when they switch the Theme :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Partly rhetorical questions:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1) What is the purpose of Google Webmaster Tools and Alexa?
>>>>>>>> 2) Do those things impact the presentation of user content?
>>>>>>>> 3) Would the end user be adversely impacted if those things were
>>>>>>>> lost when switching Themes?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Jason Clarke <jgc at jasonclarke.org>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Admins,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Long-time listener, first-time caller here- in reviewing my first
>>>>>>>>> theme, I remembered a recent list discussion on how Analytics-specific
>>>>>>>>> fields in themes are not allowed because they're considered plugin
>>>>>>>>> territory.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On a related note, I'm assuming that other similar fields such as
>>>>>>>>> "Google Webmaster Tools ID" and "Alexa ID" are also plugin territory- can
>>>>>>>>> the admins confirm this is the case?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> PS - As a side/related note, it would be super helpful if the list
>>>>>>>>> archives where somehow searchable - that might be one more avenue for
>>>>>>>>> newbies like myself to check before emailing the list (assuming guidelines
>>>>>>>>> haven't changed).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Jason Clarke
>>>>>>>>> http://jasonclarke.org
>>>>>>>>>
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