[theme-reviewers] Webmaster Tools IDs - plugin territory?

[Jason Clarke]

Chip - just to clarify - are you saying that Analytics snippets,
verification codes, and other items that don't impact the front-end are
okay to keep in theme options?

On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 8:41 PM, Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net> wrote:

> I don't think a discussion is a waste of anyone's time.
>
> I can understand why some would argue where the presentation-functionality
> line is appropriate for post-content shortcodes, or favicons, or other
> things that actually get rendered on the site front end. I really don't
> understand why there would be much of a debate about where the
> content-presentation line is appropriate for things that have absolutely no
> front-end impact - such as site analytics or webmaster tools.
>
> That's why discussion is a good thing. :)
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Jason Clarke <jgc at jasonclarke.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Emil,
>>
>> I apologize if you feel I'm wasting the group's time. My main concern is
>> that as a new theme reviewer, I'm reading what appears to be directly
>> conflicting answers between yourself and Chip as two admins, and I'm really
>> trying to simply sort that out and move on with the theme.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Jason
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me> wrote:
>>
>>> We're wasting time.
>>>
>>> If this does not break the Theme, interferes with the core, it is and
>>> should be fine.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 7:26 PM, Srikanth Koneru <tskk79 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Agree with Chip, use a plugin, set them once and forget about them,
>>>> Switch as many themes as they wish and no adverse effects for them
>>>> especially since they are very important tools.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 5:51 AM, Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> A Plugin developer not updating a Plugin is not analogous to a user
>>>>> switching Themes. Plugin developers may or may not update their Plugins any
>>>>> more or less often than Theme developers update their Themes. But end users
>>>>> can, do, and will switch Themes - often frequently.
>>>>>
>>>>> Site analytics, authentication/verification, etc. don't have anything
>>>>> to do with presentation of user content, but are quite important for end
>>>>> users who choose to use those tools.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Theme author's should be allowed to add this in Theme Options
>>>>>> and like Chip says if there's no impact to the Theme in any way
>>>>>> it's fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now, as far as what happens when user switches the Theme
>>>>>> is completely up to user, their responsibility.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What happens when plugin author does not update the plugin,
>>>>>> it may break right? same thing when they switch the Theme :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Partly rhetorical questions:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) What is the purpose of Google Webmaster Tools and Alexa?
>>>>>>> 2) Do those things impact the presentation of user content?
>>>>>>> 3) Would the end user be adversely impacted if those things were
>>>>>>> lost when switching Themes?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Jason Clarke <jgc at jasonclarke.org>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Admins,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Long-time listener, first-time caller here- in reviewing my first
>>>>>>>> theme, I remembered a recent list discussion on how Analytics-specific
>>>>>>>> fields in themes are not allowed because they're considered plugin
>>>>>>>> territory.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On a related note, I'm assuming that other similar fields such as
>>>>>>>> "Google Webmaster Tools ID" and "Alexa ID" are also plugin territory- can
>>>>>>>> the admins confirm this is the case?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> PS - As a side/related note, it would be super helpful if the list
>>>>>>>> archives where somehow searchable - that might be one more avenue for
>>>>>>>> newbies like myself to check before emailing the list (assuming guidelines
>>>>>>>> haven't changed).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Jason Clarke
>>>>>>>> http://jasonclarke.org
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