[theme-reviewers] Theme author is asking end user to install less php

Sat Jul 6 19:58:08 UTC 2013

Why not just bundle less.php in your theme files? You'd have to slightly
edit it as it uses file get/put contents.

On 4 July 2013 19:05, Josh Pollock <jpollock412 at gmail.com> wrote:

> @emil-
>
> That's neat, I didn't know Jetpack does that. Just took a look at it real
> quick, at least in Slim Jetpack it seems like it is a pretty
> minimal implementation.
>
> Of course this is all kind of academic as I lack the PHP chops to write
> said patch(s). I'm more wondering if it is remotely possible that it could
> be accepted and therefore worth thinking about ways to get this done.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 9:17 PM, Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me> wrote:
>
>> Both LESS and Sass are available in WPCOM CSS Editor
>> http://en.support.wordpress.com/custom-design/editing-css/
>>
>> However as of last year, both Less and Sass are available
>> via Jetpack http://jetpack.me/2012/12/14/jetpack-2-0-3/
>> with that said, the argument needs to be pretty good to
>> get preprocessors in the core itself :)
>>
>> In my opinion whatever is in the Jetpack, will less likely
>> be included in the core, but it does not hurt to try.
>>
>> Emil
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 7:52 PM, Josh Pollock <jpollock412 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> I'd make the case that if it were included it could enable theme and
>>> plugin developers to return option and theme mod values to SASS or LESS
>>> stylesheets. Among other cool things, I'm imagining in the customizer,
>>> instead of having a ton of color options, just setting a few options like
>>> primary, secondary, accent, etc. and then in my SASS/LESS file doing
>>> something like this:
>>>
>>> $colors = get_theme_mod('theme_options');
>>> $primary = $colors['primary'];
>>> $secondary = $colors['secondary'];
>>> $accent = $colors['accent'];
>>>
>>> I actually could do something similar to this with wpless, but not
>>> integrated with the customizer. That said, I don't want to make my theme
>>> dependent on a plugin that I can't be sure of long-term development and
>>> support for. Also, I'd rather use SASS instead of LESS.
>>>
>>> How's that argument? Not that I can back it with here's my patch...
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net>wrote:
>>>
>>>> No clue.
>>>>
>>>> Is it important enough to warrant someone arguing the case for
>>>> inclusion?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Josh Pollock <jpollock412 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> @Chip
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you think there is any chance of a LESS or SASS preprocesser
>>>>> getting accepted into core if it was submitted?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 7:12 PM, Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps a more ideal solution would be to submit a core ticket/patch
>>>>>> to get a preprocessor in core? That way, core, Plugins, and Themes can rely
>>>>>> on the core-bundled preprocessor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Until then, as Emil said: as long as the Theme works properly out of
>>>>>> the box, it's fine for Themes to ship with options/integration to support a
>>>>>> Plugin that adds a preprocessor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 5:21 PM, Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *I meant*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No need to rely or require WP-LESS*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If he ships the Theme with LESS as an additional (optional) feature
>>>>>>>> and the Theme
>>>>>>>> works out of the box as you and Chip mentioned, it's still good to
>>>>>>>> go and acceptable :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No need to rely or require on WP-LESS.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Josh Pollock <jpollock412 at gmail.com
>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> @Divesh-
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you ship your theme with processed and unprocessed code, as
>>>>>>>>> well as directions in your readme for using wpless with your theme then all
>>>>>>>>> of the requirements (theme review guidelines and yours) will be met. That
>>>>>>>>> way it works out of the box, but the end user knows you used wpless and how
>>>>>>>>> to use it to modify your theme.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> even though if there's an option and the Theme works
>>>>>>>>>> right without the preprocessors is not the reason to fail
>>>>>>>>>> a Theme
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Amy Hendrix <sabreuse at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'd say that both Sass and LESS files should be accepted
>>>>>>>>>>> (because if
>>>>>>>>>>> you're a Sass or LESS user, it's far preferable to make any
>>>>>>>>>>> downstream
>>>>>>>>>>> changes to the original files) -- but the theme should be
>>>>>>>>>>> packaged
>>>>>>>>>>> with compiled css, and not depend on running any preprocessing
>>>>>>>>>>> live,
>>>>>>>>>>> whether it's directly on the server or by way of a WP plugin.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Emil, the tutorial you point to is about using preprocessors in
>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>> development environment and compiling out the finished css. The
>>>>>>>>>>> original question was about requiring libraries to compile it
>>>>>>>>>>> live on
>>>>>>>>>>> the server, which should not be approved IMO (and which is a
>>>>>>>>>>> terrible
>>>>>>>>>>> idea for preprocessing performance, but that's a debate that's
>>>>>>>>>>> way out
>>>>>>>>>>> of scope for this list!)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Personally, I love preprocessors; I think it's the way of the
>>>>>>>>>>> future
>>>>>>>>>>> and I maintain a library for working with Sass and _s. But asking
>>>>>>>>>>> users to install extra libraries just to be able to use a theme
>>>>>>>>>>> at all
>>>>>>>>>>> is _doing_it_wrong().
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> > Both Sass and LESS preprocessor should be accepted.
>>>>>>>>>>> > Not really sure if you need any extra PHP's for this.
>>>>>>>>>>> > Take a look at this brief tut.
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Jose Castaneda <
>>>>>>>>>>> jomcastaneda at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >> The thing to remember about the WordPress theme repo is that
>>>>>>>>>>> not everybody
>>>>>>>>>>> >> that will use your theme is a developer. More often than not
>>>>>>>>>>> it is a person
>>>>>>>>>>> >> with little to no knowledge of web development or programming
>>>>>>>>>>> prowess. What
>>>>>>>>>>> >> I would do is include both the LESS files and the compiled
>>>>>>>>>>> CSS and leave a
>>>>>>>>>>> >> note on the readme file or put up some sort of notice.
>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 7:54 AM, divesh kumar <
>>>>>>>>>>> diveshkumar1983 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>> hi greg
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>> but if i use compiled css it will be just a plain css and
>>>>>>>>>>> nobody would
>>>>>>>>>>> >>> get to know that its using lessphp.
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>> On Jul 4, 2013 5:15 PM, "Srikanth Koneru" <tskk79 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> The basic theme must function without depending on any
>>>>>>>>>>> plugin. You can
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> have additional features which can come live if
>>>>>>>>>>> plugins(that are required
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> for those features) are activated.
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> If lessphp framework is allowed in themes, you can bundle
>>>>>>>>>>> it with your
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> theme itself.
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 4:52 PM, divesh kumar <
>>>>>>>>>>> diveshkumar1983 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Hi Kavita,
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Thanks for the reference. so that means user must install
>>>>>>>>>>> that plugin
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> in order to use my theme. Can i create any kind of
>>>>>>>>>>> dependency of my theme to
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> use this?
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Kavita Kumawat <
>>>>>>>>>>> erkavecb at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> you may want to check this.
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> http://wordpress.org/plugins/wp-less/
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> -Kavita
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 3:34 PM, divesh kumar
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> <diveshkumar1983 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Guys,
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Does that means I cannot use SASS or any other CSS
>>>>>>>>>>> framework with
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> wordpress theme. I don't think this make sense.
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Srikanth Koneru <
>>>>>>>>>>> tskk79 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Themes should work out of the box.
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 2:19 PM, carolina poena
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <myazalea at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ticket: http://themes.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/12893
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In readme:
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1. Upload the `snAdaptive` folder to the
>>>>>>>>>>> `/wp-content/themes/`
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> directory
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2. Download lessphp framework from
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://leafo.net/lessphp/src/lessphp-0.3.9.tar.gz.
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 3. Extract it in the directory
>>>>>>>>>>> themes/snAdaptive/lessphp.
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 4. Make sure there is a file less.inc.php in directory
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> /themes/snAdaptive/lessphp/.
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 5. Now you are ready to use the theme.
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The theme will not be approved eitherway but this is
>>>>>>>>>>> not ok right?
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ^^
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> //Carolina
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
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