[theme-reviewers] Tags and description.

Fri Aug 23 06:17:33 UTC 2013

I am more for just "Responsive" because if I had to get examples this is
what comes to mind first.

Responsive: TwentyTwelve
Mobile-Optimized: Jetpack Mobile Theme
Mobile: WPTouch <http://wordpress.org/plugins/wptouch/>

The solutions for "Mobile-Optimized" and "Mobile" are plugins.

As we have "buddypress" tag there should be a place "bbpress" and even
"woocommerce" also.

I think a survey would not be bad so that we can track the responses
properly.

I have created something. Would love some feedback.
http://grapplerulrich.polldaddy.com/s/theme-tag-servey

On 23 August 2013 06:37, Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me> wrote:

> Understood, I wasn't aware. And yes for above mobile. Accessibility is on
> the list too. I think.
>  On Aug 22, 2013 11:35 PM, "Josh Pollock" <jpollock412 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> @justin agreed.
>>
>> We ned to think about more than just mobile/responsive/etc tags.
>>
>> What about tags based one end purpose, how do we feel about reviewing
>> those? For instance theme forest has these top level categories for their
>> WordPress themes: Blog/ magazine, creative, corporate, retail, technology,
>> nonprofit, entertainment, miscellaneous, mobile, buddypress, and ecommerce.
>> Could we do tags like that? What about a CMS tag?
>>
>> @emil - There is no guarantee that there will be new tags. This process
>> is very preliminary. But if a useful set of tags can be generated by the
>> THX38 project, then a new search filtering system based on those tags will
>> have a good shot at being implemented.
>> I'm trying to take some initiative to bring the theme review team's
>> thoughts on tags back to the THX38 team because I'm the only theme reviewer
>> that was present for the first THX38 meeting and a lot of ideas for new
>> tags were thrown around, which made me worry about how we were going to
>> review them. Basically, I'd rather say, "this is what the theme review team
>> discussion resulted in", then say, "as one of the theme reviewers this is
>> what I think."
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 12:16 AM, Justin Tadlock <
>> justin at justintadlock.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  I agree with Chip that one tag would be better for end users.  However,
>>> I also think we need to propose multiple tags to whoever is in charge of
>>> this.  So, having a list of potential tags with their definitions is what
>>> we should put together.
>>>
>>> On that note, I've never had a user ask for an "adaptive" theme.  It's
>>> mostly "responsive."  But, "mobile-ready" and "mobile-first" are terms that
>>> are also thrown around a bit.
>>>
>>> Also, I dislike the phrase "fluid grid system" when referring to
>>> responsive design.  Maybe something along the lines of "a fluid layout that
>>> responds to screen size."  Anyway, I'm just nit-picking words here.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/22/2013 10:52 PM, Josh Pollock wrote:
>>>
>>> @chip- I think there is a good chance of a lot of new tags being added.
>>> Everyone agrees we need to be able to filter search results based on tags
>>> and the current set of tags doesn't do it.
>>>
>>>  What does it hurt to create a list of tag and definitions that the
>>> theme review team thinks would be useful and we could review fairly?
>>>
>>>  I think it would be better if we brainstormed a list without any
>>> premptive doomsaying, so I can take it back to the THX38 meeting as the
>>> theme review teams ideas on new tags, instead of just bringing own
>>> ideas.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 22, 2013, Chip Bennett wrote:
>>>
>>>> My main problem with that is that it's still adding three tags where
>>>> currently none exist. I just don't see that flying with the powers-that-be.
>>>> I think our best bet of getting *any* tags added is to keep to a single
>>>> tag.
>>>>
>>>>  IMHO, the tag list could probably stand for a bit of an overhaul -
>>>> but that would be a bigger discussion than this one.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 8:27 PM, Josh Pollock <jpollock412 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>> How about this:
>>>>
>>>>  Responsive: "A theme with a layout that employs a fluid grid system
>>>> that changes in response to screen size."
>>>> Mobile-Optimized: "A theme that adjusts its layout, reduces the sizes
>>>> of its media elements and otherwise improves the page load time and user
>>>> experience for mobile."
>>>> Mobile: "A Theme that is designed to be used only on mobile devices."
>>>>
>>>>  Notice I left adaptive off of the list, and I'm open to leaving
>>>> mobile off too if its not needed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 7:27 PM, Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> mobile-responsive and that includes both?
>>>>  On Aug 22, 2013 5:46 PM, "Emil Uzelac" <emil at uzelac.me> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Whatever is better. :-)
>>>> On Aug 22, 2013 5:44 PM, "Chip Bennett" <chip at chipbennett.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Remember: those tags are, primarily, for *users* rather than for
>>>> developers. To the end user: what's the tangible difference between
>>>> "responsive" and "adaptive"? In this case, "end user" could be both the
>>>> site owner (the one who chooses and installs the Theme) or the site visitor
>>>> (who would view the website via devices with various screen sizes).
>>>>
>>>>  Do a developer, I agree 100% that the two terms have tangible,
>>>> meaningful differences.
>>>>
>>>>  I'm just struggling to see how a user would see any difference
>>>> whatsoever. In both cases, the Theme is designed to work on devices with
>>>> variously small screen sizes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Josh Pollock <jpollock412 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I agree and disagree with Chip. I agree we need to find the definition
>>>> that is most useful to end users and two tags with the same definition is
>>>> probably confusing. The problem is some end users are more sophisticated
>>>> than others. Some know what responsive means, some don't. That said, we
>>>> shouldn't equate the two, because they are different. GIve me a little time
>>>> and I will propose some new definitions.
>>>>
>>>>  @Ulrich We can't just add tags to the guidelines. They need to be
>>>> supported by core. As part of the THX38 project this will most likely
>>>> happening. I'm hoping to go to the next THX38 meeting with a list of tags
>>>> that we, as theme reviewers, want added and feel like we can review
>>>> properly.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net>wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm one of those people who doesn't know the difference between
>>>> "responsive" and "adaptive". Well, until just now, because I googled it<http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/web-designer/what-is-the-difference-between-responsive-vs-adaptive-web-design/>.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  The TL;DR of that article:
>>>>
>>>>
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