[theme-reviewers] Microformats & Role Landmarks

[Edward Caissie]

@Amy - Agree.


Sent from my iPhone ... Cais

On 2013-08-14, at 10:53 AM, Amy Hendrix <sabreuse at gmail.com> wrote:

> @Cais, totally agree -- and I hope I didn't sound like I was going
> after your response! I was aiming at the general question of "is this
> stuff no longer needed" but I can get a little vehement on the
> subject.
> 
> As for ARIA in the guidelines, I think we're probably not there yet.
> I'd love to see accessibility review take off, and with _s and all the
> twenties using ARIA, there's a lot of solid stuff for people to build
> on to make accessible themes. But making it a requirement for all
> themes feels to me like one of those areas where having so many
> guidelines becomes a burden for themers. I'd be much more down with a
> guideline along the lines of "ARIA is optional, but if used it has to
> be done correctly".
> 
> On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Edward Caissie
> <edward.caissie at gmail.com> wrote:
>> @Amy - I probably could have worded my first response better.
>> 
>> I agree ARIA is relevant ... it's just not explicitly specified anywhere in
>> the guidelines (yet?).
>> 
>> Edward Caissie
>> aka Cais.
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Amy Hendrix <sabreuse at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ARIA roles are absolutely still relevant -- aside from the fact that
>>> what they do isn't really fully covered by HTML5 semantics, it's also
>>> the case that many assistive technologies aren't yet at the point
>>> where they can be dropped. See the discussion here:
>>> http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/24629. Even though we don't
>>> require ARIA markup, I suspect we'll start seeing it more as the theme
>>> accessibility review process comes up to speed.
>>> 
>>> On the other hand, I've never seen Microformats take off the way their
>>> advocates have been promising for, oh, a decade now. But it's not
>>> because they're outdated (if anything, they're better represented in
>>> HTML5 than they ever were before), just because while they're great
>>> for some very limited circumstances (name/address data, recipes,
>>> bibliographic records), they're not particularly compelling for
>>> general use.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 11:45 PM, Bryan Hadaway <bhadaway at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Was curious, in 2013, how everyone feels about the importance/necessity
>>>> of:
>>>> 
>>>> Microformats
>>>> http://microformats.org/
>>>> 
>>>> and
>>>> 
>>>> Role Landmarks
>>>> http://blog.paciellogroup.com/2013/02/using-wai-aria-landmarks-2013/
>>>> 
>>>> With the evolution of software, web browsers and HTML5 are these
>>>> becoming
>>>> superfluous, out-dated elements, or are they still very important today
>>>> and
>>>> tomorrow?
>>>> 
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