[theme-reviewers] Comments are disabled notices

[Chip Bennett]

Where my thinking is on this one:

The only really *critical* criterion is that Pages don't display the
message, because of the (unfortunately coined) "WordPress as CMS" use case.
Everything else, I *think* can perhaps be considered as design intent -
unless there is a compelling UX consideration?

What I would like to *avoid* is frequently changing guidelines in this area
- so if we want to change the guidelines now, let's nail down rock-solid
reasoning for whatever we come up with, and get it right the first time.

Personally, I'm hesitant to make anything RECOMMENDED, without a clear
consensus. I'm in favor of recommending to display "comments are closed" on
Posts, with or without existing comments. People are acclimated to blog
posts having a comment form, so such a message would basically always make
sense.

So, let's start here, and build from it:

REQUIRED
* Do not display "comments are closed" on Pages (with no comments?)

OPTIONALLY
* Display "comments are closed" on Posts (with or without comments?)
* Display "comments are closed" on Posts and Pages with existing comments


How would you (all) write them differently, and why?

(On a related note: this discussion will likely lead to some changes to the
Theme Unit Tests, to account for all use-case permutations: Posts and Pages
with and without comments, and with comments enabled/disabled.)

(On an unrelated note: I would MUCH rather see these use cases rolled into
filters for core functions, i.e. comment_form(), rather than cobbled
together like this.)

Chip

On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Justin Tadlock <justin at justintadlock.com>wrote:

> We've had this discussion before.  Might need to drag up that old thread.
>  Here's basically how I do it:
>
> * If the post has comments but comments are disabled, display a message.
> * If the post does not have comments and comments are disabled, display
> nothing.
>
> "Post" meaning posts of any post type, including pages.
>
>
> On 10/5/2011 3:02 PM, Ian Stewart wrote:
>
>> On 2011-10-05, at 2:59 PM, Chip Bennett wrote:
>>
>>  I would even throw out for consideration the idea that displaying such a
>>> notice at all might be best left as a design decision - at least, on Blog
>>> Posts
>>>
>> Well, I do think it's helpful on posts that have comments and then — What
>> the hey now! Where's that comment form so I can add a comment? Oh, "Comments
>> are disabled." Very well then.
>>
>> Ian
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