Where my thinking is on this one:<div><br></div><div>The only really *critical* criterion is that Pages don't display the message, because of the (unfortunately coined) "WordPress as CMS" use case. Everything else, I *think* can perhaps be considered as design intent - unless there is a compelling UX consideration?</div>
<div><br></div><div>What I would like to *avoid* is frequently changing guidelines in this area - so if we want to change the guidelines now, let's nail down rock-solid reasoning for whatever we come up with, and get it right the first time.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Personally, I'm hesitant to make anything RECOMMENDED, without a clear consensus. I'm in favor of recommending to display "comments are closed" on Posts, with or without existing comments. People are acclimated to blog posts having a comment form, so such a message would basically always make sense.</div>
<div><br></div><div>So, let's start here, and build from it:</div><div><br></div><blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><div>REQUIRED</div><div>* Do not display "comments are closed" on Pages (with no comments?)</div>
<div><br></div><div>OPTIONALLY</div><div>* Display "comments are closed" on Posts (with or without comments?)</div><div>* Display "comments are closed" on Posts and Pages with existing comments</div></blockquote>
<div><br></div><div>How would you (all) write them differently, and why?</div><div><br></div><div>(On a related note: this discussion will likely lead to some changes to the Theme Unit Tests, to account for all use-case permutations: Posts and Pages with and without comments, and with comments enabled/disabled.)</div>
<div><br></div><div>(On an unrelated note: I would MUCH rather see these use cases rolled into filters for core functions, i.e. comment_form(), rather than cobbled together like this.)</div><div><br></div><div>Chip<br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Justin Tadlock <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:justin@justintadlock.com">justin@justintadlock.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
We've had this discussion before. Might need to drag up that old thread. Here's basically how I do it:<br>
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* If the post has comments but comments are disabled, display a message.<br>
* If the post does not have comments and comments are disabled, display nothing.<br>
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"Post" meaning posts of any post type, including pages.<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
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On 10/5/2011 3:02 PM, Ian Stewart wrote:<br>
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On 2011-10-05, at 2:59 PM, Chip Bennett wrote:<br>
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I would even throw out for consideration the idea that displaying such a notice at all might be best left as a design decision - at least, on Blog Posts<br>
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Well, I do think it's helpful on posts that have comments and then — What the hey now! Where's that comment form so I can add a comment? Oh, "Comments are disabled." Very well then.<br>
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Ian<br>
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