[theme-reviewers] Help on theme review - Did I waste my time?

Mon May 30 00:31:32 UTC 2011

I'm not prepared to "not-approve" themes for the inclusion of a CPT; if a
decently presented use case for the CPT is given and it is documented to the
end-user then it will become the end-user's choice to use the theme.
IF the theme author also wants to write a plugin to match that functionality
for the end-user to use if they choose to change to a theme that does not
support that particular CPT then I think they are going above and beyond the
support of their theme.

Cais.

On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Jess Planck <jess at funroe.net> wrote:

> It is the point. Themes are seen only as window dressing by novice users.
> Those same novice users seem to understand that plugins might make serious
> modifications to their website.
>
> A specialized theme needs to indicate that its modifications may not be
> transferred if the user changes themes.
>
> From the plugin side both BuddyPress and BBPress have examples of modifying
> the "theme" space from the "plugin" space.
>
> Jess
>
>
> On May 29, 2011, at 7:00 PM, Ryan Frankel <ryan.frankel at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Phil,
> I think the main issue here is simply that if someone had a blog utilizing
> something like the twenty-ten theme then they should be able to change to
> any theme in the repo and only the styling (not the content) would be
> affected. I know with the specialized themes I have done there is no longer
> the idea of a Post because custom post types have replaced them. If they
> switched from the twenty-ten theme to my theme they would find that what
> they were expecting to see would no longer exist.
>
> Correct me if I'm wrong theme-reviewers but I think the major issue is not
> that there are specialized themes but more that Repo is really made for
> themes that follow a pre-3.1 type of WP model and should be interchangeable.
> I would imagine soon we will have a few theme repos including one for
> specialized themes (at least I hope so).
>
> For now it seems that those of us with GPL specialized themes will have to
> wait it out.
>
> -Ryan
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On May 29, 2011, at 7:33 PM, "Philip M. Hofer \(Frumph\)" <<philip at frumph.net>
> philip at frumph.net> wrote:
>
> Why should they be treated any differently? it's just post types and post
> types already pass the process.   Are you going to stop themes that have the
> new post elements? those handle content creation as well.  It's just another
> level, that is all.
>
> Is it because the theme team doesn't know how to test them?  Does it do
> anything to circumvent security?  What "is" is specifically that would
> warrant them to be treated any differently?  They're theme's with special
> functionality built into the theme that utilize CORE code to do as such
> which was written specifically for those purposes, whether in a theme or a
> plugin.
>
> - Phil
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Simon Prosser <pross at pross.org.uk>
> *To:* <theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org><theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org>
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> *Sent:* Sunday, May 29, 2011 4:25 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [theme-reviewers] Help on theme review - Did I waste my
> time?
>
> Patches are always welcome ;)
>
> On 30 May 2011 00:13, Ryan Frankel < <ryan.frankel at gmail.com><ryan.frankel at gmail.com>
> ryan.frankel at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think a lot of us that are developing some 'specialized' themes would be
>> more then happy to devote some time and energy to helping get this right. I
>> think both sides have valid points and the concern seems to mostly stem from
>> placing the themes in the regular repo. We all agree that new specialized
>> themes are only a good thing for WP and are a reason that 3.1+ is so
>> powerful.
>>
>> I think it would be relatively easy to modify the theme-check plugin to
>> support specialized themes.  There are only a few 'required' elements would
>> have to be removed or modified.
>>
>> Anyways, if the theme team does decide or start a discussion of the
>> requirements I think a lot of us would gladly help out to set up the
>> infrastructure to support it.
>>
>> -Ryan
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On May 29, 2011, at 6:11 PM, "Jonny Cauvain" < <furcifer at furcifer.me><furcifer at furcifer.me>
>> furcifer at furcifer.me> wrote:
>>
>> > That's understandable.
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
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>> theme-reviewers-bounces at lists.wordpress.org
>> > [mailto: <theme-reviewers-bounces at lists.wordpress.org><theme-reviewers-bounces at lists.wordpress.org>
>> theme-reviewers-bounces at lists.wordpress.org] On Behalf Of Otto
>> > Sent: 29 May 2011 23:06
>> > To: <theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org><theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org>
>> theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
>> > Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Help on theme review - Did I waste my
>> time?
>> >
>> > On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 4:55 PM, Jonny Cauvain < <furcifer at furcifer.me><furcifer at furcifer.me>
>> furcifer at furcifer.me> wrote:
>> >> Can't you just add a separate category called " specialized" Themes,
>> >> we can move ahead with possibly creating a spate review process with
>> >> different guidelines?
>> >
>> > That's what I was thinking, but when mucking with anything on .org that
>> also
>> > integrates with the WP core, like the theme directory, then we'd prefer
>> to
>> > get it right the first time. So give it some time for input to be
>> gathered.
>> >
>> > -Otto
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