I'm not prepared to "not-approve" themes for the inclusion of a CPT; if a
decently presented use case for the CPT is given and it is documented to
the end-user then it will become the end-user's choice to use the theme.<br>IF the theme author also wants to write a plugin to match that functionality for the end-user to use if they choose to change to a theme that does not support that particular CPT then I think they are going above and beyond the support of their theme.<br>
<br><br>Cais.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Jess Planck <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jess@funroe.net">jess@funroe.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>It is the point. Themes are seen only as window dressing by novice users. Those same novice users seem to understand that plugins might make serious modifications to their website. </div><div>
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</div><div>A specialized theme needs to indicate that its modifications may not be transferred if the user changes themes. </div><div><br></div><div>From the plugin side both BuddyPress and BBPress have examples of modifying the "theme" space from the "plugin" space. </div>
<div><br></div><div><font color="#888888">Jess</font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><br>On May 29, 2011, at 7:00 PM, Ryan Frankel <<a href="mailto:ryan.frankel@gmail.com" target="_blank">ryan.frankel@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br></div></div></div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><div><span></span></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div>Phil,</div><div>I think the main issue here is simply that if someone had a blog utilizing something like the twenty-ten theme then they should be able to change to any theme in the repo and only the styling (not the content) would be affected. I know with the specialized themes I have done there is no longer the idea of a Post because custom post types have replaced them. If they switched from the twenty-ten theme to my theme they would find that what they were expecting to see would no longer exist. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Correct me if I'm wrong theme-reviewers but I think the major issue is not that there are specialized themes but more that Repo is really made for themes that follow a pre-3.1 type of WP model and should be interchangeable. I would imagine soon we will have a few theme repos including one for specialized themes (at least I hope so). </div>
<div><br></div><div>For now it seems that those of us with GPL specialized themes will have to wait it out. </div><div><br></div><div>-Ryan</div><div><br></div><div><br><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On May 29, 2011, at 7:33 PM, "Philip M. Hofer \(Frumph\)" <<a href="mailto:philip@frumph.net" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:philip@frumph.net" target="_blank">philip@frumph.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Why should they be treated any differently? it's
just post types and post types already pass the process. Are you
going to stop themes that have the new post elements? those handle content
creation as well. It's just another level, that is all.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Is it because the theme team doesn't know how to
test them? Does it do anything to circumvent security? What "is" is
specifically that would warrant them to be treated any differently?
They're theme's with special functionality built into the theme that utilize
CORE code to do as such which was written specifically for those purposes,
whether in a theme or a plugin.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">- Phil</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
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<div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, May 29, 2011 4:25 PM</div>
<div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [theme-reviewers] Help on
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<div><br></div>Patches are always welcome ;)<br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 30 May 2011 00:13, Ryan Frankel <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ryan.frankel@gmail.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:ryan.frankel@gmail.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:ryan.frankel@gmail.com" target="_blank">ryan.frankel@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="border-left:#ccc 1px solid;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">I think a lot of us that are developing some 'specialized'
themes would be more then happy to devote some time and energy to helping
get this right. I think both sides have valid points and the concern seems
to mostly stem from placing the themes in the regular repo. We all agree
that new specialized themes are only a good thing for WP and are a reason
that 3.1+ is so powerful.<br><br>I think it would be relatively easy to
modify the theme-check plugin to support specialized themes. There are
only a few 'required' elements would have to be removed or
modified.<br><br>Anyways, if the theme team does decide or start a
discussion of the requirements I think a lot of us would gladly help out to
set up the infrastructure to support it.<br><br>-Ryan<br><br>Sent from my
iPad<br>
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<div><br>On May 29, 2011, at 6:11 PM, "Jonny Cauvain" <<a href="mailto:furcifer@furcifer.me" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:furcifer@furcifer.me" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:furcifer@furcifer.me" target="_blank">furcifer@furcifer.me</a>>
wrote:<br><br>> That's understandable.<br>><br>> -----Original
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Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Help on theme review - Did I waste my
time?<br>><br>> On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 4:55 PM, Jonny Cauvain <<a href="mailto:furcifer@furcifer.me" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:furcifer@furcifer.me" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:furcifer@furcifer.me" target="_blank">furcifer@furcifer.me</a>>
wrote:<br>>> Can't you just add a separate category called "
specialized" Themes,<br>>> we can move ahead with possibly creating a
spate review process with<br>>> different guidelines?<br>><br>>
That's what I was thinking, but when mucking with anything on .org that
also<br>> integrates with the WP core, like the theme directory, then
we'd prefer to<br>> get it right the first time. So give it some time for
input to be gathered.<br>><br>> -Otto<br>>
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