[theme-reviewers] Censorship must not be tolerated

Edward Caissie edward.caissie at gmail.com
Mon Jul 4 03:12:00 UTC 2011

As one of the mailing list administrators I can safely say the thread is not
closed ... nor will it be; BUT, I would also expect the readership to
respectively not continue on that thread as personally it only appeared to
be degrading into futility.

Simply put, it was your opinion against all others, and you were not gaining
any ground in converting anyone to your ideal. Also, you were provided an
alternative suggestion to distribute your theme from other than the Extend
repository where you can use whatever code you wish and cater to whichever
niche group(s) you choose. I even imagine you would find some developers
that would be great sounding boards to fine tune your method, although I
must admit you would be hard-pressed to find any from the previous
discussion given your stance of not yielding to any suggestions or reasoning
put forward.

Now, to the point of the topic ... relevance is subjective; all other issues
are more or less understood as just cause to discontinue a thread. If a
conversation reaches a point of futility there is no purpose; if  there is
no purpose there is no justification; if there is no justification why
should it continue? Should one person "be permitted to terminate or prevent
a relevant discussion on the mailing list", of course not; but, you are
referring to a thread that had reached a point of futility. Should one
person be permitted to terminate or prevent an irrelevant discussion on the
mailing list, of course they should.


On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 10:40 PM, Darren Slatten <darrenslatten at gmail.com>wrote:

> In my opinion, the discussion about output buffering that ended earlier
> today was a complete failure on many levels. I personally spent many hours
> responding to that discussion thread, and ultimately, I believe it was
> terminated prematurely simply because a couple of individuals were extremely
> frustrated with it.
> I too was extremely frustrated with the apparent lack of progression, and
> even more frustrated with the official outcome, but in my opinion, "pulling
> rank" to stamp out a heated and lively debate...is *absolutely
> unacceptable*. This type of censorship should not be tolerated in any
> open-source project or community, and certainly not in a WordPress mailing
> list, whose *defining purpose* is to facilitate exactly these kinds of
> discussions.
> I'd like to contribute some ideas on how we can avoid similar failures in
> the future, but first I think it's important to establish whether or not
> everyone agrees that this is a problem. So my question is:
> Should it be okay for some individuals to prevent everyone else from
> engaging in certain discussions* on this mailing list?
> *assuming the discussion is relevant, appropriate, not abusive, not
> illegal, etc.
> Some people mentioned in the output buffering discussion that my
> stance/arguments are difficult to recognize, so I'll emphasize my point
> here:
> *No one should be permitted to terminate or prevent a relevant discussion
> on this mailing list, unless there is sufficient evidence to show that doing
> so is necessary to protect the rights, freedoms, and/or safety of the
> WordPress community at large, or doing so is required by law.*
> Does anyone disagree with that statement?
> --
> Darren Slatten
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