[theme-reviewers] Second Opinion

Edward Caissie edward.caissie at gmail.com
Wed Jan 19 20:04:06 UTC 2011 

Theme has been suspended ... the author should be advised as noted
throughout this thread.

Author email: paydaydesigns [at] gmail ...

I can do it, unless someone else wants to write something specific.


Cais.

On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Philip M. Hofer (Frumph) <
philip at frumph.net> wrote:

>  hey, me neither - read my first 100 heh..
>
> but yeah this should be suspended
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net>
> *To:* theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 19, 2011 9:29 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [theme-reviewers] Second Opinion
>
> No worries. I'm not immune to faulty reviews (eh, Phil? ;) ). This one
> probably makes a good case study for handling of derivative Themes.
>
> Chip
>
> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Emil Uzelac <emil at themeid.com> wrote:
>
>> I wasn't aware that it was you :(
>> Yeah, there's no difference in line code at all. This is indeed TwentyTen.
>>
>>
>> *Emil Uzelac* | ThemeID | T: 224-444-0006 | Twitter: @EmilUzelac<http://twitter.com/emiluzelac>| E:
>> emil at themeid.com | http://themeid.com
>> *Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler.* - Albert
>> Einstein
>>
>>
>>
>>   On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net>wrote:
>>
>>> That one was one I reviewed/approved; *mea culpa*.
>>>
>>> Looks like I didn't do a full review on that one. (Looks like it was from
>>> about two months ago. Since then, I've started looking more carefully at
>>> textdomain, and substantial differences for TwentyTen-derived Themes.)
>>>
>>> Chalk it up to a bad review: Bad Chip! :)
>>>
>>> I'd be fine with suspending, and asking for a revision, to address
>>> deficiencies.
>>>
>>> Chip
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Emil Uzelac <emil at themeid.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Let's drop the link building for a moment and look into the same author
>>>> shall we?
>>>> All right this http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/all-green is approved
>>>> and the entire code is from TwentyTen, every single like, it even says
>>>> TwentyTen directly in files. How can that be?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Emil Uzelac* | ThemeID | T: 224-444-0006 | Twitter: @EmilUzelac<http://twitter.com/emiluzelac>| E:
>>>> emil at themeid.com | http://themeid.com
>>>> *Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler.* - Albert
>>>> Einstein
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The standard is "*significantly different design and/or functionality*".
>>>>> Granted, it's entirely subjective, but we *are* taking into consideration.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know how to draw the line any more clearly than that, when the
>>>>> reality is that a non-trivial number of submitted Themes will *always* be
>>>>> derived from the WordPress default Theme - which right now is TwentyTen.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thus, it is rather infeasible to disallow *any* TwentyTen-derived
>>>>> Themes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chip
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Otto <otto at ottodestruct.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Are we actually allowing basic modifications to the twentyten theme to
>>>>>> go into the directory?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can't we say that themes must be at least somewhat *original*? Simply
>>>>>> replacing the
>>>>>> artwork and screwing around with the CSS of an existing theme does not
>>>>>> a new theme create.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just a thought.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Otto
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Daniel Tara <contact at onedesigns.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> > Twenty Ten has that hook and that theme copies plenty of code from
>>>>>> it. I
>>>>>> > think it’s residual waste from wannabe coders that don’t actually
>>>>>> understand
>>>>>> > what they’re doing.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Daniel
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > From: theme-reviewers-bounces at lists.wordpress.org
>>>>>> > [mailto:theme-reviewers-bounces at lists.wordpress.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>>> Philip M.
>>>>>> > Hofer (Frumph)
>>>>>> > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 4:43 PM
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Second Opinion
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I'm thinking there's some plugin out there that's doing it, since
>>>>>> plugin's
>>>>>> > are not .. moderated, they can do anything of the like.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > From: Chip Bennett
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 6:39 AM
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Second Opinion
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I've seen quite a few Themes that have such a "do_action(
>>>>>> 'my_theme_credits'
>>>>>> > )" in footer.php, but without a corresponding add_action() hook in
>>>>>> > functions.php.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I've always taken it to be sloppiness in copying from another Theme,
>>>>>> adding
>>>>>> > in a hook but not knowing to define it. Is it something else?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Chip
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Philip M. Hofer (Frumph)
>>>>>> > <philip at frumph.net> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > .. is there an action that hooks into it in the theme or is he
>>>>>> hooking in
>>>>>> > someplace else like a plugin?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > <?php do_action( 'all_green_credits' ); ?>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > From: Daniel Tara
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 5:55 AM
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Second Opinion
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > If you don’t mean that he is building links via the
>>>>>> 'all_green_credits'
>>>>>> > hook, then I don’t get it either.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Anyway, there’s no function hooked to that action in any theme file.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Daniel
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > From: theme-reviewers-bounces at lists.wordpress.org
>>>>>> > [mailto:theme-reviewers-bounces at lists.wordpress.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>>> Chip
>>>>>> > Bennett
>>>>>> > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 3:40 PM
>>>>>> > To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Second Opinion
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > So for the not-enough-sleep-and-no-coffee-yet version: what am I
>>>>>> looking at,
>>>>>> > in the footer.php that you linked? :)
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Chip
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 4:52 AM, Emil Uzelac <emil at themeid.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > This would be no go, the guy is building links via theme and that's
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> > cool. Please see Google cache on this http://is.gd/TSWfvV
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Emil Uzelac | ThemeID | T: 224-444-0006 | Twitter: @EmilUzelac | E:
>>>>>> > emil at themeid.com | http://themeid.com
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler. - Albert
>>>>>> Einstein
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Philip M. Hofer (Frumph)
>>>>>> > <philip at frumph.net> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > heh well thats not far from what it looks like in firefox too, that
>>>>>> text on
>>>>>> > the image looks horrible
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > From: Chip Bennett
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 8:55 AM
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Second Opinion
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Follow up:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Firefox: renders fine
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Chrome: does not render properly
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > IE8: does not render properly
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > By "does not render properly", here's what I'm seeing.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Chip
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Philip M. Hofer (Frumph)
>>>>>> > <philip at frumph.net> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > i'm sorry, i'm confused as to why it's not rendering to you?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > think its a browser issue or connection to the site?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > From: Chip Bennett
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 8:05 AM
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Second Opinion
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Can you and Phil post screencaps on the ticket? I'll reinstall the
>>>>>> Theme and
>>>>>> > do the same.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > (Or, if it's not the author's original work, maybe we just deny it
>>>>>> on those
>>>>>> > grounds?)
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Chip
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Edward Caissie <
>>>>>> edward.caissie at gmail.com>
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > IT rendered fine but like Phil pointed out, there are some obvious
>>>>>> items to
>>>>>> > look at ...
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Philip M. Hofer (Frumph)
>>>>>> > <philip at frumph.net> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > yes yes and yes, renders fine sorta..
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > last post from from last october, the 404 page renders like crap
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > The real template author for this is http://www.bloggerthemes.net/
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > as shown here
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> http://www.dhetemplate.com/2010/11/free-all-green-blogger-template.html#
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > (notice the paydaydesigns.info on that page)
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > From: Chip Bennett
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 7:47 AM
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Second Opinion
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Can you read any of the content?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Does it look like screenshot.png?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Edward Caissie <
>>>>>> edward.caissie at gmail.com>
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > IT seems to load fine for me ... haven't tested it or anything. What
>>>>>> issues
>>>>>> > are you having?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Jay <furcifer at furcifer.me> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Hey chip.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Just taking a quick look from my phone, it's the same theme that's
>>>>>> on the
>>>>>> > author url, and i'm having issues with that.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >>Hey All,
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>I could not get this Theme
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >><https://themes.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/2655>to render properly
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >>me. Can someone else confirm that it is the Theme,
>>>>>> >>and not something with my test environment?
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>Thanks!
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>Chip
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >
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