[theme-reviewers] Discussion

Philip M. Hofer (Frumph) philip at frumph.net
Wed Sep 1 15:38:46 UTC 2010

I wrote a huge long 3 page message that included Otto offering to assist with making things happen more smoother with much needed trac changes which never happened, but I just deleted it all because, well Chip basically just wrote it best.

- Phil

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Chip Bennett 
  To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 8:34 AM
  Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Discussion

  On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Otto <otto at ottodestruct.com> wrote:

    Once again, I have to bring this up.

    If you refuse to have a *discussion* with the theme authors, then you
    are not doing a review. You are merely blocking the theme author from
    joining the community.

  Your argumentative tone in your ticket comment did not lend itself rather well to fostering the discussion you claim to want to have. Perhaps if you'd been a bit more respectful in the first place, your comment wouldn't have contributed to shutting down any potential discussion?

    When a theme author presents a valid argument, even when it's in trac,
    then mere rejection of his argument without consideration of any sort
    is *VERY* frustrating. Merely saying that that is the way the rules
    are now is not discussion, it is mere rejection.

  "XYZ is unacceptable. I want to scrap the process" is not a valid argument. 

    This is how we're treating people trying to join the community?

  This is how Matt's Tech Ninja treats project volunteers who are doing their best to contribute? 

    If somebody brings up valid points, then it should be the job of the
    theme reviewer to consider those points and to apply common sense. It
    is their job to bring up these points to this list, or to wherever
    discussion is taking place among the reviewers. Merely rejecting the
    points immediately and closing the ticket is an extremely poor way to
    handle this sort of thing.

  If a Theme reviewer brings up valid points, then it should be the job of the Theme developer to consider those points and to apply common sense. It is the Theme developers job to explain why and how his Theme employs functionality that may legitimately be an exception to a given rule.

  Merely lashing out at the review, calling it unacceptable, and calling for the process to be scrapped is a poor way to handle this sort of thing. 

    The theme review guidelines are not the source of all knowledge. They
    are not, and should not be, considered absolute.

  Nor are your over-the-top responses to Guideline-based review comments.



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