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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I wrote a huge long 3 page message that included
Otto offering to assist with making things happen more smoother with much needed
trac changes which never happened, but I just deleted it all because, well Chip
basically just wrote it best.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>- Phil</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=chip@chipbennett.net href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net">Chip
Bennett</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org
href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org">theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September 01, 2010 8:34
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [theme-reviewers]
Discussion</DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Otto <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:otto@ottodestruct.com">otto@ottodestruct.com</A>></SPAN>
wrote:<BR>
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class=gmail_quote>Once again, I have to bring this up.<BR><BR>If you refuse
to have a *discussion* with the theme authors, then you<BR>are not doing a
review. You are merely blocking the theme author from<BR>joining the
community.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<DIV>Your argumentative tone in your ticket comment did not lend itself rather
well to fostering the discussion you claim to want to have. Perhaps if you'd
been a bit more respectful in the first place, your comment wouldn't have
contributed to shutting down any potential discussion?</DIV>
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class=gmail_quote><BR>When a theme author presents a valid argument, even
when it's in trac,<BR>then mere rejection of his argument without
consideration of any sort<BR>is *VERY* frustrating. Merely saying that that
is the way the rules<BR>are now is not discussion, it is mere
rejection.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>"XYZ is unacceptable. I want to scrap the process" is not a valid
argument. </DIV>
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class=gmail_quote><BR>This is how we're treating people trying to join the
community?<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<DIV>This is how Matt's Tech Ninja treats project volunteers who are doing
their best to contribute? </DIV>
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class=gmail_quote><BR>If somebody brings up valid points, then it should be
the job of the<BR>theme reviewer to consider those points and to apply
common sense. It<BR>is their job to bring up these points to this list, or
to wherever<BR>discussion is taking place among the reviewers. Merely
rejecting the<BR>points immediately and closing the ticket is an extremely
poor way to<BR>handle this sort of thing.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>If a Theme reviewer brings up valid points, then it should be the job of
the Theme developer to consider those points and to apply common sense. It is
the Theme developers job to explain why and how his Theme employs
functionality that may legitimately be an exception to a given rule.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Merely lashing out at the review, calling it unacceptable, and calling
for the process to be scrapped is a poor way to handle this sort of
thing. </DIV>
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class=gmail_quote><BR>The theme review guidelines are not the source of all
knowledge. They<BR>are not, and should not be, considered absolute.<BR><FONT
color=#888888><BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV>Nor are your over-the-top responses to Guideline-based review
comments.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Chip </DIV></DIV><BR>
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