[theme-reviewers] theme-reviewers introductions

Fri Jun 11 13:51:29 UTC 2010

Hi there sorry it's taken me a little while to respond.

My name is Tammie Lister and I'm a Uk based freelance designer and front end developer who has focused on WordPress for several years now and in this industry too many years than I care to remember :)  I work mainly producing themes and have for the past year worked a great deal with BuddyPress also with regards to theme development and blogging about BuddyPress in a long term contract.  My passion is for simple but effective semantic designs and I am partial to the concept of 'content being king'.  

I'm really interested in helping out not just with the WordPress but also the BuddyPress themes as hopefully I can help with my background in that side of things along with the WordPress side.  Bottom line I have wanted to get involved in something for a while and felt this was something I could really assist with and benefit not just the end users but the developers and designers who create the themes by making the process hopefully smoother and faster for them.  Looking forward to getting started with this all and being part of this.

Anyhos enough rambling from the Brit :)  My blog is www.diaryofawebsite.com which is currently in a reboot phase.

Regards
Tammie Lister

On 11 Jun 2010, at 02:25, theme-reviewers-request at lists.wordpress.org wrote:

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>   1. Re: theme-reviewers Digest, Vol 1, Issue 16 (Joseph Scott)
>   2. Re: wp-themes: voidy - 1.3.1 (Joseph Scott)
>   3. Re: introductions (Allan Cole) (Joseph Scott)
>   4. Introduction (Nicolas Kuttler) (Jean-Nicolas Kuttler)
>   5. Outdated theme unit tests	(test-data.2008-12-22.xml)
>      (Jean-Nicolas Kuttler)
>   6. Re: Hey WPeople (Joseph Scott)
>   7. Re: [WordPress Themes] Suffusion,	new version 3.5.3
>      (Sayontan Sinha)
>   8.  introductions (Anthony Cole)
>   9.  introductions (Anthony Cole)
>  10. Introduction (Hafiz Rahman) (Hafiz Rahman)
>  11. Re: Simple-Blue-Dashed 1.0 (chip at chipbennett.net)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:15:45 -0600
> From: Joseph Scott <joseph at automattic.com>
> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] theme-reviewers Digest, Vol 1, Issue 16
> To: Sarah Hines <sarah at shinesandjecker.com>
> Cc: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
> Message-ID:
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> Hi Sarah!
> 
> As I mentioned in a previously reply, potentially using other tools is
> something that we can look at.  Initially we needed something where we
> could bring people together and still process feedback to and from
> theme authors.  Obviously with a large initial group the introductions
> started adding up fast :-)
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Sarah Hines <sarah at shinesandjecker.com> wrote:
>> I think a forum might be a better medium for this.
>> I could see:
>> - Introductions (to the review community),
>> - Questions on Creating Themes (for Theme Developers),
>> - Theme Reviews (when a new theme is ready to be reviewed),
>> - Process/Checklists/Tools (what's the purpose, what's the process,
>> how do we use the codex checklist, does one person do the entire
>> review or can different folks do different pieces and a scorecard
>> slowly gets filled out until it's approved?, it could also be a spot
>> for discussions on improving process such as the theme naming issue).
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Joseph Scott
> joseph at josephscott.org
> http://josephscott.org/
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:33:23 -0600
> From: Joseph Scott <joseph at automattic.com>
> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] wp-themes: voidy - 1.3.1
> To: "Cipr.vb" <cypr.vb at gmail.com>
> Cc: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
> Message-ID:
> 	<AANLkTilN3IqUJA27YrE06YPfFadEeicjrJ1epGlvRoRJ at mail.gmail.com>
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> When posting a review, please include the theme reviewer list (looks
> like it got left off the reply) and start a new thread (subject line).
> I'll include my feed back inline:
> 
> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Cipr.vb <cypr.vb at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Ok, so... Simple-Blue-Dashed 1.0 review
>> As for the design:
>> Colors are?awful.. poor choice.. the blue background and white text hurts
>> the eyes..Visual hierarchy is very low and a lot of elements are not aligned
>> correctly, spacing is also off and the font is plain and simple ugly. Text
>> size, text spacing is again very badly proportioned (content text too big).
>> No footer (no designed footer with any text or images, sidebar or custom
>> fields.. it's just the wp_footer() function) exists and the sidebar has a
>> very ugly "feature" where the text is at a angle a little..
> 
> 
> I thought at first the angle thing was just me when I looked at this,
> glad to know my eyes aren't that crazy yet :-)  Not sure what the idea
> was there.  Same with the footer, not sure why there's not something
> down there.
> 
> 
>> Functionality:
>> Functionality seems ok even though it's pretty minimalistic. The widgets
>> have the default layout.
>> I did notice though there is no support for multiple pages...
> 
> When I look at the "Layout Test" post with this theme I see links to
> the separate pages.  Was there another part that didn't support
> multiple pages?
> 
> 
>> Other than that I think once these problems will be fixed (that I must say,
>> are very hard to fix to make it a good looking theme)
>> I only tested in chrome for mac so far.
>> I also attached a few images to explain the design issues. If Images can't
>> be seen please let me know.
> 
> Although the spacing isn't exactly what I'd necessarily pick, I don't
> think it's too crazy.
> 
> A few other things I noticed when trying out this theme:
> 
> - no comment threading support
> - no "home" link any where.  Usually the blog title links back to the
> front page (or some times there is a separate home link), but I didn't
> see any way to link back to the home page.  Rather frustrating
> 
> 
> Keep trying it out, then let's put this all together and we'll get it
> back to the theme author.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Joseph Scott
> joseph at josephscott.org
> http://josephscott.org/
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:37:23 -0600
> From: Joseph Scott <joseph at automattic.com>
> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] introductions (Allan Cole)
> To: Allan Cole <allan at fthrwght.com>
> Cc: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
> Message-ID:
> 	<AANLkTimC01QtZMLc1V_2BzDFR3ezmgN-MAcrvaHspMPe at mail.gmail.com>
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> 
> I don't have a specific time while we are putting this all together
> and learning our way through this.  As a general goal once we a have
> group of people working on the review queue I'd like to get feedback
> to theme authors in under a day.
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Allan Cole <allan at fthrwght.com> wrote:
>> Cool, so I?ll take a look at this. Is there a general expected turn around
>> for theme reviews?
>> Let me know.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Joseph Scott
> joseph at josephscott.org
> http://josephscott.org/
> 
> 
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> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 01:58:34 +0200
> From: Jean-Nicolas Kuttler <theme-reviewers at nicolaskuttler.de>
> Subject: [theme-reviewers] Introduction (Nicolas Kuttler)
> To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
> Message-ID: <20100610235834.GA15720 at nicolaskuttler.de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> Hi, I'm Nicolas Kuttler. I have been building websites with various tools since 1996  and have been using WordPress since early 2008. I think I released my first plugins in 2009 and have been building themes and plugins for clients since then. I'm in #wordpress @ freenode quite often.
> 
> My blog: http://www.nkuttler.de
> My plugins: http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/profile/nkuttler
> 
> Nicolas
> 
> --
> Nicolas Kuttler
> wp at nkuttler.de
> 
> http://www.nkuttler.de
> http://www.nicolaskuttler.de (deutsch)
> 
> 
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> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 02:06:32 +0200
> From: Jean-Nicolas Kuttler <theme-reviewers at nicolaskuttler.de>
> Subject: [theme-reviewers] Outdated theme unit tests
> 	(test-data.2008-12-22.xml)
> To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
> Message-ID: <20100611000632.GB15720 at nicolaskuttler.de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> The test data (1) from the codex is outdated, features like threaded comments and probably more are missing. I filed a trac bug (2) and hope that somebody will look into it after the 3.0 release.
> 
> 1: http://svn.automattic.com/wpcom-themes/test-data.2008-12-22.xml
> 2: http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/13639
> 
> To update the test data we'd have to read through the release notes of all releases since 2.7 and add content that uses the new features. I think this should probably be done before establishing a standardized theme review process as testers need up-to-date test data.
> 
> Nicolas
> 
> --
> Nicolas Kuttler
> wp at nkuttler.de
> 
> http://www.nkuttler.de
> http://www.nicolaskuttler.de (deutsch)
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 18:28:52 -0600
> From: Joseph Scott <joseph at automattic.com>
> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Hey WPeople
> To: Oren Yomtov <thenameisoren at gmail.com>,
> 	theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
> Message-ID:
> 	<AANLkTilDhhAaMGWpzxLcpSU2m3oEJi2wb3b7TEp1AMBZ at mail.gmail.com>
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> 
> Import the test WP data (
> http://codex.wordpress.org/Theme_Development_Checklist#Theme_Unit_Test
> ) into a separate test WP install and go through the theme.  The
> http://codex.wordpress.org/Theme_Development_Checklist is a great
> resource for testing against a theme.  It should support the standard
> WP features and and look nice.
> 
> Perhaps this is a good time to create a codex page listing out various
> items that we've seen come up and how they've been dealt with.  Any
> volunteers?  You'll need to keep an eye on the discussions on this
> list to help keep things up to date.
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Oren Yomtov <thenameisoren at gmail.com> wrote:
>> What is the format of a "review"?
>> What do I need to do?
>> Sorry to bother if this is already answered somewhere else, I just couldn't
>> find it.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Joseph Scott
> joseph at josephscott.org
> http://josephscott.org/
> 
> 
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:33:09 -0700
> From: Sayontan Sinha <sayontan at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] [WordPress Themes] Suffusion,	new
> 	version 3.5.3
> To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
> Message-ID:
> 	<AANLkTin8Y-hpYCAWlUG8nNyuLBUnyJAfBydsk2ahWris at mail.gmail.com>
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> 
> Hello,
> Is there an ETA for approval of this version? My previous version (3.5.2)
> remained in the approval queue due to the "buddypress" tag for 2 weeks, till
> in desperation I removed all BP functionality and resubmitted the theme
> without the tag.
> 
> Regards,
> Sayontan.
> 
> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 9:59 PM, <theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org> wrote:
> 
>> Thank you for uploading version 3.5.3 of Suffusion.
>> 
>> --
>> The WordPress.org Themes Team
>> theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Sayontan Sinha
> http://mynethome.net | http://mynethome.net/blog
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> American name for Lake Webster, Webster, Massachusetts, meaning "You fish on
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> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 10:36:03 +1000
> From: Anthony Cole <anthony at radiopicture.com.au>
> Subject: [theme-reviewers]  introductions
> To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
> Message-ID: <A3F05AEE-906F-4020-8141-B7E10F5CD023 at radiopicture.com.au>
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> G'Day Everyone,
> 
> My name is Anthony and I'm a Melbourne-based web developer. I've been around WordPress for a while now ( since the early betas) and I'm primarily a WordPress theme developer by trade. In my spare time I guess I have a thing for helping out with WordCamps here and in New Zealand.
> 
> Cheers,
> Anthony.
> 
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> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 10:43:00 +1000
> From: Anthony Cole <anthony at radiopicture.com.au>
> Subject: [theme-reviewers]  introductions
> To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
> Message-ID: <052F9E08-9E90-4C32-A2D2-1A467427882D at radiopicture.com.au>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> G'Day Everyone,
> 
> My name is Anthony and I'm a Melbourne-based web developer. I've been around WordPress for a while now ( since the early betas) and I'm primarily a WordPress theme developer by trade. In my spare time I guess I have a thing for helping out with WordCamps here and in New Zealand.
> 
> Cheers,
> Anthony.
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 07:48:59 +0700
> From: Hafiz Rahman <hafiz at wplover.com>
> Subject: [theme-reviewers] Introduction (Hafiz Rahman)
> To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
> Message-ID:
> 	<AANLkTimDuOuavB3OusiBzxubXyptvSTnGVP2p3mCdPZ- at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> Hi, my name is Hafiz Rahman and I'm a web designer / developer from
> Indonesia. I've been blogging about theme dev on WPLover
> (http://wplover.com) for a while and have been working with WordPress
> to build client sites for about two years.
> 
> I'd like to help contribute to WordPress and I think this is a good
> way to do it. One thing I'm not yet sure: what should a theme review
> looks like? Simple paragraphs? Detailed checklist?
> 
> -- 
> Hafiz Rahman
> http://wplover.com/
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 11
> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 19:25:21 -0600
> From: chip at chipbennett.net
> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Simple-Blue-Dashed 1.0
> To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
> Message-ID:
> 	<37447c5c53b7cdc97a34b05352d54c60.squirrel at wp06.secure-dns.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
> 
> Awesome! Glad to have someone break the ice, so to speak, with a first
> theme review!
> 
>> When posting a review, please include the theme reviewer list (looks
>> like it got left off the reply) and start a new thread (subject line).
> 
> Updated the subject line to reflect theme being reviewed.
> 
>> I'll include my feed back inline:
>> 
>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Cipr.vb <cypr.vb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Ok, so... Simple-Blue-Dashed 1.0 review
>>> As for the design:
>>> Colors are??awful.. poor choice.. the blue background and white text
>>> hurts
>>> the eyes..Visual hierarchy is very low and a lot of elements are not
>>> aligned
>>> correctly, spacing is also off and the font is plain and simple ugly.
>>> Text
>>> size, text spacing is again very badly proportioned (content text too
>>> big).
>>> No footer (no designed footer with any text or images, sidebar or custom
>>> fields.. it's just the wp_footer() function) exists and the sidebar has
>>> a
>>> very ugly "feature" where the text is at a angle a little..
>> 
>> 
>> I thought at first the angle thing was just me when I looked at this,
>> glad to know my eyes aren't that crazy yet :-)  Not sure what the idea
>> was there.  Same with the footer, not sure why there's not something
>> down there.
>> 
>> 
>>> Functionality:
>>> Functionality seems ok even though it's pretty minimalistic. The widgets
>>> have the default layout.
>>> I did notice though there is no support for multiple pages...
>> 
>> When I look at the "Layout Test" post with this theme I see links to
>> the separate pages.  Was there another part that didn't support
>> multiple pages?
>> 
>> 
>>> Other than that I think once these problems will be fixed (that I must
>>> say,
>>> are very hard to fix to make it a good looking theme)
>>> I only tested in chrome for mac so far.
>>> I also attached a few images to explain the design issues. If Images
>>> can't
>>> be seen please let me know.
>> 
>> Although the spacing isn't exactly what I'd necessarily pick, I don't
>> think it's too crazy.
> 
> The layout/spacing issues, at least from the screenshots, appear to be
> more a matter of aesthetics/personal taste than usability/design
> standards.
> 
> Of course, getting feedback based on the aesthetics of other theme
> developers is important and useful (and helps one know if one's own design
> sense is too far off-base).
> 
> But, that said: should our reviews focus more on the public-facing theme
> design/rendering, or should we focus more on the code structure, proper
> use of WP functions and tags, security, etc.?
> 
> (I mainly ask, as I am getting ready to start my own assigned review.)
> 
>> A few other things I noticed when trying out this theme:
>> 
>> - no comment threading support
>> - no "home" link any where.  Usually the blog title links back to the
>> front page (or some times there is a separate home link), but I didn't
>> see any way to link back to the home page.  Rather frustrating
>> 
>> 
>> Keep trying it out, then let's put this all together and we'll get it
>> back to the theme author.
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Joseph Scott
>> joseph at josephscott.org
>> http://josephscott.org/
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