[theme-reviewers] Guidelines regarding Theme Names

[Rodrigo Galindez]

On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Trevor Turk <trevorturk at gmail.com> wrote:
> Maybe it would just make sense to have a separate "exceptions" section
> that says to write this list if you believe your theme might be
> appropriate for the  directory even though it doesn't meet all of the
> guidelines. In the case of a "normal" theme, comments would be
> required and therefore comments.php would be required. Best to leave
> things as clear as possible for "normal" themes because it's already a
> lot to take in when you first approach it.

This is a good thinking. I don't believe themes available in the
public theme directory must be required to have comments.php (or,
commenting functionality), because in some cases it could cause a
conflict to a design decision. If a theme, by a visual design
consideration is not allowing comments, then it should not be required
to append a comments.php file.

In any case, I still believe a minimum comment functionality should be
packed in case the user wants to enable commenting features. I think
it's better to recommend theme developers to append a comments.php
just in case.

>
> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Philip M. Hofer (Frumph)
> <philip at frumph.net> wrote:
>> if the simplist theme didn't use comments he wouldnt have 'required'
>> comments.php with it so yeah
>>
>> so under the required theme files
>>
>> comments.php (if theme uses comments)
>>
>> ?
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Chip Bennett
>> To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
>> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 7:59 AM
>> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Guidelines regarding Theme Names
>> Then we need to address the criterion that Comments are required
>> functionality.
>> I think the best course would be to add an exception statement, to allow for
>> specialized Themes - although personally I don't think barebones support for
>> comments is all that much of an encumbrance. Regardless, I think
>> comments.php should still be listed as a required template file. (The above
>> exception would be implied here.)
>> Chip
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Edward Caissie <edward.caissie at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Very well ... so we are eliminating all the "pure" CMS themes that would
>>> not use comments?!
>>>
>>> If I was to develop a theme that is strictly for the purpose of serving
>>> information (whatever it may be) then I have no use for comments. If the
>>> theme is presented in that fashion it should be reviewed as a special case
>>> and potentially acceptable.
>>>
>>> Forcing the inclusion of tempalte files that serve no purpose to the theme
>>> is simply forcing the theme to be bloated with unused files.
>>>
>>>
>>> Cais.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The issue is that comments_template() is required for correct
>>>> implementation of Comments, and the use of comments_template() requires a
>>>> template file to be passed as an argument.
>>>> So, if Themes incorporate comments functionality (which is a
>>>> requirement), they must use comments_template(), ergo, they must have a
>>>> comments template file.
>>>> Chip
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Edward Caissie
>>>> <edward.caissie at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Has anyone pinged this directly to nacin? It may just be an oversite or
>>>>> a core issue that should be addressed versus a template file inclusion
>>>>> issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm having a hard time believing the basic minimal requirements need to
>>>>> be extended beyond including index.php and style.css (with scrennshot.png
>>>>> only being required for the Extend/Theme repository).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cais.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Philip M. Hofer (Frumph)
>>>>> <philip at frumph.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> that original simplist theme that came up in this theme reviewers
>>>>>> thread + comment from otto & nacin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> just give it a try with the minimal theme and nacin's plugin, it comes
>>>>>> up
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (and no, no other deprecated messages come up)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Phil
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The official word is that the 'default' functions that fallback in WP
>>>>>> are never really updated and who knows if they're going to be in there
>>>>>> anymore in the future.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: Edward Caissie
>>>>>> To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 7:41 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Guidelines regarding Theme Names
>>>>>> So no comments.php file throws a deprecated message at you? That
>>>>>> doesn't seem right ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What theme is this happening with? I'd like to see this myself ... and
>>>>>> are there other tempalte files we will need to make requirements for similar
>>>>>> reasons?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cais.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Philip M. Hofer (Frumph)
>>>>>> <philip at frumph.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> While your in there add comments.php to the minimal theme files
>>>>>>> requirement, official deprecated message comes up without it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: Chip Bennett
>>>>>>> To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 7:35 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Guidelines regarding Theme Names
>>>>>>> Right on. I threw that together really quickly (and tend to err more
>>>>>>> toward a "formal" tone anyway.
>>>>>>> Looks good! Some of those (especially the "version-specific,
>>>>>>> markup-related terms" item. Could probably use more content there. What else
>>>>>>> similar don't we want in Theme names?
>>>>>>> Chip
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Edward Caissie
>>>>>>> <edward.caissie at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I didn't change the intent of the section, but I did go in and
>>>>>>>> "lightened-up" the text a bit ... it's a little less "formal" but the
>>>>>>>> meaning is the same.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cais.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> See here:
>>>>>>>>> http://codex.wordpress.org/Theme_Review#Theme_Name
>>>>>>>>> Please advise, comment, correct, and/or add appropriate Theme
>>>>>>>>> Name-related guidelines. I notice I'm running into several instances where I
>>>>>>>>> have to comment on the Theme Name. Some objective guidelines in this area
>>>>>>>>> will be helpful.
>>>>>>>>> Chip
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