[wp-trac] [WordPress Trac] #50560: recently installed plugins

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#50560: recently installed plugins
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 Reporter:  mikulabc     |       Owner:  (none)
     Type:  enhancement  |      Status:  new
 Priority:  normal       |   Milestone:  Awaiting Review
Component:  Plugins      |     Version:
 Severity:  normal       |  Resolution:
 Keywords:               |     Focuses:  ui, accessibility, administration
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Comment (by mikulabc):

 I will gladly also @jrf and @ayeshrajans

 The reason why the "Recently deleted" functionality would be a great start
 for CORE is because

 **Wordpress does not want users to have plugins inactive because it seems
 this triggers a "health report" warning.
 **
 So the solution isn't for users to start downloading plugins for notes and
 then taking notes of their currently removed plugins, but making a user
 feel safe enough that they will have quick, direct, easy access to the
 plugin they just deleted by seeing it in a list, giving the user the
 opportunity to focus on things that are more important than taking notes
 and keeping those notes updated with hyperlinks and all.

 Productivity is a major factor when it comes to anything and specially
 making it easy for people to help keep wordpress secure by removing
 plugins.

 You cannot educate a user to do the mentioned steps you want them to do,
 that would require a lot of effort and time which no one has.

 I never saw inactive plugins as an issue and i have 64 of them that i will
 use at some point again, but taking notes of each one is a very time
 consuming task that isnt feasible for lots of WordPress sites, the only
 way right now for someone to know that their Awesome plugin is still there
 is by simply making it inactive.

 Would you go the extra mile of directly removing that awesome plugin that
 you love so much? Obviously not, most people will want to keep it by
 putting it inactive, see the pattern here? Becasue Wordpress doesnt tell
 you what you just deleted out of the box, but it actually should - in
 order for people to feel comfortable also deleting it.

 **See it this way:**

 **Q:** Why does a user not remove plugins?
 **A:** Because he still wants to keep the inactive plugin, if he removes
 it, ITS GONE.

 **Q:** So how can we make the user feel like he can remove the plugin and
 not keep it inactive with still feeling like he can come back to that
 awesome plugin that he wants?
 **A:** By giving him a simple history he can see where it shows the plugin
 he deleted, so he can go back and download it again whenever he wants or
 needs it.

 If you look at this one simple line, it says that **"If you’re not going
 to use a plugin"**
 [[Image(https://i.imgur.com/YnwsJ8Z.jpg)]]
 But has anyone ever considered that the user **PLANS TO USE IT**, but
 doesnt have the time and effort to keep track of removed plugins on a
 separate list and update that?

 Its tedious and that is where Wordpress core fails, it doesnt give an
 option that makes it feel like you can can remove it safely with a good
 feeling it will still be there IN THE LIST OF REMOVED ONES.

 I hope now i have shed the proper light into the issue.

 If you still believe i am wrong, the best way to test this is by asking
 100 sample users directly that have a lot of inactive plugins and ask them
 "What stops you from deleting the plugins"?

 And then follow-up ask them if they would go that extra mile of installing
 note taking plugins to keep track of removed plugins or if they would
 rather still just keep them inactive because its TOO MUCH WORK.

 You will be surprise how little time people have and want to spend on an
 additional task such as keeping track of a deleted plugin, so, for now we
 will keep it inactive until "removing" plugins becomes a safe step for
 knowing what you deleted so you can come back to it.

 I am not alone in this

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